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I suppose that when Aaron worked it it could have been a miracle, but when I saw it it was just was magic trick. Maybe the miracle was that he somehow suddenly new better how to work the trick than Pharaoh's magicians.???Trick? you mean "miracle"?
Here it is in the context, with emphasis -- you decide.I suppose that when Aaron worked it it could have been a miracle, but when I saw it it was just was magic trick. Maybe the miracle was that he somehow suddenly new better how to work the trick than Pharaoh's magicians.
Maybe he just had a larger (or hungrier) snake. But there is still no periotic tinkering with the molecular genetics of evolving creatures involved.Here it is in the context, with emphasis -- you decide.
Exodus 7:8 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
9 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Shew a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent.
10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
Maybe he just had a larger (or hungrier) snake. But there is still no periotic tinkering with the molecular genetics of evolving creatures involved.
The story is urban lore.Here it is in the context, with emphasis -- you decide.
Exodus 7:8 And the LORD spake unto Moses and unto Aaron, saying,
9 When Pharaoh shall speak unto you, saying, Shew a miracle for you: then thou shalt say unto Aaron, Take thy rod, and cast it before Pharaoh, and it shall become a serpent.
10 And Moses and Aaron went in unto Pharaoh, and they did so as the LORD had commanded: and Aaron cast down his rod before Pharaoh, and before his servants, and it became a serpent.
11 Then Pharaoh also called the wise men and the sorcerers: now the magicians of Egypt, they also did in like manner with their enchantments.
12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
Well, urbana paid for it dearly in the form of ten plagues.The story is urban lore.
Show me.It's a magic trick. I've seen it done.
12 For they cast down every man his rod, and they became serpents: but Aaron's rod swallowed up their rods.
12 But the Lord hardened Pharaoh’s heart and he would not listen to Moses and Aaron, just as the Lord had said to Moses.
stories.God "meddles" with His creation from time to time on an as-needed basis; telling nature to "stand aside."
Examples include parting the Red Sea, the Burning Bush, the Tower of Babel, the Ten Plagues, various weather phenomenon, and this doosey ...
Deuteronomy 29:5 And I have led you forty years in the wilderness: your clothes are not waxen old upon you, and thy shoe is not waxen old upon thy foot.
Throw in the sun and moon standing still, and it's enough to make a college graduate believe the Bible speaks of geocentrism.
In the New Testament, we have the Virgin Birth, Death & Resurrection of Jesus Christ, and His ascension into Heaven.
All of these nature-defying acts have a technical term that defies scholarly explanation and scientific scrutiny:"miracles."
In most versions of the Bible including the Complete Jewish Bible, Exodus 12 reads:
Which raises the problem of fairness to punish Pharaoh if God harden his heart.
I agree it is just a story, there is no evidence of a mass exodus from Egypt.Punish Pharoah? It was the Egyptiwn people who had their
firstborn chopped up, soldiers sent to certain death etc.
Cannot be bothered to soften the heart of the mass murderers.
Not that the story is true, but still.
Where have you looked? Marrakesh, Morocco would be a good place. Zanzibar would do as well. My understanding of it is that certain snakes fall into a rigid temporary paralysis if you twist their necks in just the right way and vertebrae pop back into alignment if you throw them down just right. For a magician in a long robe, exchanging a stick which has been shown around for a rigid snake concealed in the folds is child's play.Show me.
All I can find is a rope trick.
Ex 8:15 But when Pharaoh saw that there was respite, he hardened his heart, and hearkened not unto them; as the LORD had said.Which raises the problem of fairness to punish Pharaoh if God harden his heart.
Written down for our admonition.stories.
What would you look for? pop cans strewn about? bags and tents left behind?I agree it is just a story, there is no evidence of a mass exodus from Egypt.
Then I submit it wasn't done like God did it.Where have you looked? Marrakesh, Morocco would be a good place. Zanzibar would do as well. My understanding of it is that certain snakes fall into a rigid temporary paralysis if you twist their necks in just the right way and vertebrae pop back into alignment if you throw them down just right. For a magician in a long robe, exchanging a stick which has been shown around for a rigid snake concealed in the folds is child's play.
It fits the description in the Bible. How do you know exactly what God's involvement was?Then I submit it wasn't done like God did it.
You're describing a snake to a snake.
Let's see a rod to a snake.
(And do it in a room without any snakes anywhere near you.)
Um ... no.It fits the description in the Bible.
God took the credit for it -- in writing.Speedwell said:How do you know exactly what God's involvement was?
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