Well I am totally new here but I wanted to share my thoughts on here about that subject. Evolution is so unrealistic lol I remember when I was in the 4th grade my teacher expected me to believe Dolphins had feet... if this is true what is the sole purpose of life and if this is all true is there any reason to go by rules like do not murder? I mean we are all gonna die someday so why not end our worry of death and get over it? Why isn't evolution happening now? Because there was no such thing.I mean can a tin can create itself? No everything has a maker such as us we come from our parents or is it possible babies come from monkeys?
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Evolution is very obvious that is not true at all
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Go to Christans Only forum for discussing this issue now. Do not pass go. Do not collect $200.
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The technical name is cetacean, and they did:ChristianRanger89 said:
http://www.ucmp.berkeley.edu/mammal/cetacea/cetacean.html
evolution is not a theory that gives a meaning to life. It is simply a scientific theory that describes how things are, not whether those things are good or bad. However Evolution can answer why certain societies exist. This was demonstrated by the likes of Maynard Smith using game theory to demonstrate how altruism can be beneficial to ones genes.
you are confusing things here. Evolution has nothing to say on this matter. Humans are not a single replicator species, we no longer rely only on genes as many other animals do. so the questions as above are irrelevant to evolution.
It is. for example antibiotic resistance in bactreia, vancomycin reistance in bacteria, nylon consumption abilities in bacteria. The evolution of many animals in and around cities, and rather amusingly an experiment observing extinction in lizards went badly wrong and turned into an experiment on rapid evolution.
only there is.
well no, but that is because there is no process to do so.
aah yes, you are missing out all of the evolution in the middle, and we were never monkeys, we were (and still are) primates, and monkeys are a branch from our common ancestor with them. Just as an example of many intermediates, here are a number of homonid skulls, ranging from small braincases like chimps, to humans:
http://www.talkorigins.org/faqs/homs/compare.html
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The Troll is doing Olaf impressions.
Pelt him with fruit and various meats.
(Would be my guess...)
Pelt him with fruit and various meats.
(Would be my guess...)
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Ok.ChristianRanger89 said:
So was the world being round, that was quite a shock to the worlds populace.
That's what they're there for, to teach.
Uh, countries without christianity also don't murder each other dude. The notion that we don't murder each other because the bible says so is rather funny, actually. Clearly this must mean that atheists must be over represented in the murder statistics! Not so.
Because living is enjoyable. If what you are saying is true, then all atheists would have killed themselves by now. That doesn't generally happen. 'Hey, why don't we just die now, so we can go to heaven?'
No, because it is.
And where does evolution say a tin can creates itself?
*shock*
Nowhere!
Yes, monkies do in fact have babies.
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How about we talk about how evolution is equal to atheism? I think that's only illogical fallacy that we have left untouched in this thread.
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I'm sleeping! Good grief, guys, these are posted at 4- 5 in the bloody morning! What, are all of you insomniacs?Jet Black said:
Hmm. Ever hear of the dyslexic agnostic insomniac? Stayed awake all night wondering if there really is a dog.However, I'm going to chew all my fellow evolutionists out. What are you doing just making fun of the guy! He says he is new here. Give him the benefit of the doubt that he has been given all the garbage by professional creationists (probably followed the link from Dr. Dino), swallowed it whole, and believes it.
Don't just make fun of him, educate him! If you don't want to take all his points, just pick one. Creationists often complain that evolutionists only ridicule people. Well, the responses here lend support to that claim.
Yes, Aggie, he might be a troll and I am puzzled that he listed himself as a theistic evolutionist in his profile. However, he may simply not know what that means or thinks it means something completely different than what it does. After all, he thinks evolution is something completely different than what it is.
If he is a real troll, we'll find that out soon enough. In the meantime, don't jump to conclusions! Give him some respectful answers!
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ChristianRanger89 said:
After hearing this I can only conclude that you don't believe in the Noahic flood tale. You may want to stop talking about things you've not seriously investigated....it helps you to look less retarded.
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First, you listed yourself as a theistic evolutionist in your profile. Why? What does that mean to you?ChristianRanger89 said:
Second, dolphins never had feet. That is, the genus of several species that we call "dolphins" never had feet. BUT, the remote ancestors of cetaceans (the family that includes dolphins and whales) once lived on land and had feet. The front legs became the front flippers on dolphins and the back legs are still preserved as the pelvic and partial thigh bone in some whales and dolphins.
Third, evolution is not a worldview or ethical system. Science tells you what is in nature, not what you ought to do. So, the rules such as do not murder are what we ought to do and we have to get these from someplace else than science. That we evolved from ape-like ancestors says nothing about whether we should or should not murder our neighbor.
Fourth, evolution is happening now. I have a whole thread on Observed Speciation where we have seen and are seeing new species form from existing ones. Does someone have the link to that one handy?
Fifth, a tin can is something that is manufactured by humans. It used to be the argument that plants and animals were manufactured. However, when Darwin discovered natural selection, it was realized that natural selection would produce the designs we see in plants and animals and they don't have to be manufactured directly. God can create them using natural selection indirectly.
Sixth, yes, we come from our parents, but we are not exactly like our parents, are we? We are a bit different. Well, if those little differences add up from generation to generation, then our great, great, great ..... grandparents looked very different from us. So different that they did not look like us much at all, but were much more ape-like.
We'll be happy to discuss evolution with you, but you can help yourself by reading a bit about it, too. Origin of the Species is online at http://pages.britishlibrary.net/charles.darwin/ Why don't you start reading the 6th Edition of that and we can answer questions from you as they come up.
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lucaspa said:
We bad people...
However, in our defence, with one post and no responses to his own thread, it does look like a hit and run troll.
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lucaspa said:I'm sleeping! Good grief, guys, these are posted at 4- 5 in the bloody morning! What, are all of you insomniacs?
Apart from the antipodeans and Euros, some of us Americans work the night shift.
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Ahem. I will point out that I tried to direct him to the CO Creation/Evolution forum. I don't claim to have some sort of prescience as to who needs to get their feet wet there first, but since I'm a vocal atheist advocate of evolution =/= atheism, when I see someone who's clearly going to get dogpiled and turned off to the reality of evolution, it's my first response to them.
I'm reminded again and again of The Bear's comments I see there when I peruse the replies in CO - "there's no atheists here so who are you replying to." Sometimes it's just better if the EVILution fighters just head to CO first and eventually work their way back here.
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