Evolution is not science

AV1611VET · Nov 20, 2013

bhsmte said:
The historicity of any book is not the contents of said book.

Ya ... no kidding.

So explain this doosey to me, please:

bhsmte said:
When they actually opened one up and started reading and actually learned about the historicity of the book.

AV1611VET · Nov 20, 2013

TLK Valentine said:
Wrong as usual, AV.

Oooookay ... let's go with:

Just the fourth word?

bhsmte · Nov 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Ya ... no kidding.

So explain this doosey to me, please:

What needs explaining?

Reading a book and then exploring the historicity of the words are pretty self explanatory.

AV1611VET · Nov 20, 2013

bhsmte said:
Reading a book

That's not what you said, chief.

bhsmte said:
started reading

[sign]Please deposit another dime in the Arab phone for another misquote.[/sign]

HitchSlap · Nov 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
That's not what you said, chief.

[sign]Please deposit another dime in the Arab phone for another misquote.[/sign]

Yes, the history in the Bible is wrong.

bhsmte · Nov 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
That's not what you said, chief.

[sign]Please deposit another dime in the Arab phone for another misquote.[/sign]

Wow, what a catch AV. Started reading vs reading.

Congrats!

ThinkForYourself · Nov 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Just wondering if they could open One.

I'm from a Christian family AV, and the bible convinced me that Christianity makes no sense.

That was a long time ago, I wanted to see if I made the correct choice. So far no one here has given me any reason to believe I didn't.

AV1611VET · Nov 20, 2013

ThinkForYourself said:
I'm from a Christian family AV, and the bible convinced me that Christianity makes no sense.

That was a long time ago, I wanted to see if I made the correct choice. So far no one here has given me any reason to believe I didn't.

Including your family?

Heissonear · Nov 20, 2013

ThinkForYourself said:
I'm from a Christian family AV, and the bible convinced me that Christianity makes no sense.

That was a long time ago, I wanted to see if I made the correct choice. So far no one here has given me any reason to believe I didn't.

You may be looking in the wrong way in the wrong place.

The Bible talks about God who is in Heaven, who created all things, who see us every moment even the number of hairs on our head. Maybe you should start by seeking Him. Jeremiah 23:23,24 says He's not far off. Or do you want to listen to and follow men, even religious men?

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ThinkForYourself · Nov 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Including your family?

Including my family.

HitchSlap · Nov 20, 2013

Heissonear said:
You may be looking in the wrong way in the wrong place.

The Bible talks about God who is in Heaven, who created all things, who see us every moment even the number of hairs on our head. Maybe you should start by seeking Him. Jeremiah 23:23,24 says He's not far off. Or do you want to listen to and follow men, even religious men?

.

"Come, let us reason."

bhsmte · Nov 20, 2013

ThinkForYourself said:
Including my family.

Think,

Why listen to the men of science, who actually rely on objective evidence?

You should listen to the men who wrote the bible. Don't worry no one really knows who most of those men were, or that the book doesn't make a lot of sense, just believe it.

ThinkForYourself · Nov 20, 2013

Heissonear said:
You may be looking in the wrong way in the wrong place.

The Bible talks about God who is in Heaven, who created all things, who see us every moment even the number of hairs on our head. Maybe you should start by seeking Him. Jeremiah 23:23,24 says He's not far off. Or do you want to listen to and follow men, even religious men?

.

I'm not big on following based on what someone has said.

I haven't seen any proof that God exists. If he wants to show himself to me, or perform a miracle, or provide some other proof, that would be great.

AV1611VET · Nov 20, 2013

bhsmte said:
Why listen to the men of science, who actually rely on objective evidence?

Because they mainly speak the [secondary] word of God when they talk.

God reveals Himself to us in two major ways:

1. Special Revelation = the Bible = pastors, missionaries, evangelists, etc. = primary word of God.
2. General Revelation = His creation = scientists, technicians, personal observation, etc. = secondary word of God.

[Psalm 19]

AV1611VET · Nov 20, 2013

ThinkForYourself said:
I'm not big on following based on what someone has said.

I haven't seen any proof that God exists. If he wants to show himself to me, or perform a miracle, or provide some other proof, that would be great.

Matthew 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

bhsmte · Nov 20, 2013

AV1611VET said:
Matthew 27:42 He saved others; himself he cannot save. If he be the King of Israel, let him now come down from the cross, and we will believe him.

How does that work for you Think? Does that put you over the top?

fireof god98 · Nov 20, 2013

TLK Valentine said:
Funny, many say the Bible is one of the reasons we become Atheists.

and agnostics

fireof god98 · Nov 20, 2013

In a mere two decades, one of Charles Darwin's finch species, Geospiza fortis, reduced its beak size to better equip itself to consume small sized seeds, scientists report in the July 14 issue of the journal Science.

The finch once had its own kingdom on the Galapagos Island of Daphne Major. It had its pick of seeds to eat. But the arrival of another species of finch about 20 years ago, and additional food competition from a drought on the island in 2003, changed everything.When there is a severe drought on a small island, natural selection occurs it seems.

The new larger species ate the larger and harder seeds on the island, food that the biggest members of the native finch clan normally ate.
The recent immigrant species had almost eaten the supply of food themselves, so they almost went extinct.The resident species, the species that was there before the new species arrived, underwent a large shift toward small size in beaks

Typically, the small members of the species can't crack the larger seeds. But with the depletion of the larger seeds, the small-beaked population, which could reach the smaller feed and needed less food to meet its daily energy needs, had a better survival rate.

This type of evolutionary change is known as character displacement.
It's a very important one in studies of evolution because it shows that species interact for food and undergo evolutionary change, which minimizes further evolution . It has not been possible to observe the whole process from start to finish in nature although

gungasnake · Nov 20, 2013

fireof god98 said:
In a mere two decades, one of Charles Darwin's finch species, Geospiza fortis, reduced its beak size to better equip itself to consume small sized seeds...

He was still a finch. Our entire world is driven by information and an information code (RNA/DNA). ALL of the information for every kind of finch is there in every finch which ever lives.

fireof god98 · Nov 20, 2013

gungasnake said:
He was still a finch. Our entire world is driven by information and an information code (RNA/DNA). ALL of the information for every kind of finch is there in every finch which ever lives.

but evolution changed the size of the beak

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