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Evolution is not really a theory

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I think that may be his way of admitting that he is wrong. He uses the word "attitude" every time that he is caught making a false statement.

More attitude yet again. It is very obvious you all have psychological problems with the concept of choice, and this is why you all have such an attitude.
 
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More attitude yet again. It is very obvious you all have psychological problems with the concept of choice, and this is why you all have such an attitude.
Thank you for admitting that you are wrong again. There is no need to do so in every post.

Do you see your mistake now? I have explained it to you more than once.
 
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Can you specifically describe where choice needs to occur within the process of mutation and selection?

How about how choice fits into other physical processes of the universe: planetary orbits, the birth and death of stars, volcanoes?

Also, you have made the comment that life "looks designed". Can you give some specifics as to how it looks designed and how you tell something designed from something that isn't designed?
(If possible, can you please give an example of things that are clearly not designed using your system.)
 
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If scientists cannot say this looks like X, then no more science.

That's not really how science is done. (Or, rather, that's not the prime component of scientific research.)

So an assessment and a prediction:

Assessment: Nando has no practical experience in doing science (research), and is probably not well educated in scientific disciplines.

Prediction: This thread is screaming down hill fast and will be moderated by the time I get home. (No, I'm not going to try to trigger moderation. That would be cheating.)

If you don't mind, I'm going to go to my office and do some science now.
 
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If it was truthiful, the scientists would be able to duplicate it in the lab. Thus far, no.
Where did you get that idea? We can't replicate most things in the universe in the lab, but we still have a very good idea how lots of them work.
 
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Where did you get that idea? We can't replicate most things in the universe in the lab, but we still have a very good idea how lots of them work.

Maybe we should try demonstrating continental drift in a lab to prove the theory of plate tectonics to young earthers as well. All we need are a couple continents stuffed into a petri dish and some magma.
 
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More atitude...
 
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These are all childish questions. It is just more attitude.

Why don't you talk about your emotional problems with the concept of choice. Why are you triggered by the concept, so that if someone hypothesizes that organisms are intelligently designed, you get all hyper critcical.
 
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These are all childish questions. It is just more attitude.
Then I'm not understanding you. If my questions are childish and you actually have answers it should be straightforward to explain.

I'm earnestly interested in how your world view could be applied to the real world on any level.

Why don't you talk about your emotional problems with the concept of choice. Why are you triggered by the concept, so that if someone hypothesizes that organisms are intelligently designed, you get all hyper critcical.
Personally the closest I've come to being "triggered" is the irritating and frankly, mildly offensive use of the term triggered. I would truly appreciate you not use it about me.

I'm having intellectual problems with your version of "choice", not emotional ones. I haven't yet been able to understand what you mean by the word and how it applies.


If you have any interest in actually discussing intelligent design, I'm interested, but please try to have a conversation and don't just throw childish, ill-defined insults like "attitude" and "triggered".
 
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Yet more attitude. We disagree that organisms looking designed counts as evidence.

We disagree because there is a big gap between looks designed and is designed, we have programs that can create randomly very incredible looking things that would appear designed, but arn't. How do you tell the difference between something that is designed, but only looks designed through some natural process?
 
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