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Evolution and Logical Fallacies - Dr. Jason Lisle
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Steve Petersen
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I am totally in your camp. The video I posted above is a REBUTTAL of Lisle who is a young earth creationist from th Institute for Creation Research.
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One of the things Jason left out is the DNA is not the only form of information in a living cell. The living cell itself has the ability to permit DNA to change in hot spots in order to find a ways around a problem but often it comes at a cost. It just like a computer program can use trial and error to fine tune a solution to a problem... thus adding information. The computer program itself requires a huge amount of information. The amount of information gain by a random process is very limited.
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I am throwing the [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] flag all over your so called rebuttal of this video. Please go and learn some real science. You probably don't even understand basic physics, which does not support evolution (which is what Lisle is saying). Please get real.
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I appears to me, Dingdong, bot be nothing more than a propaganda mill. I say that because there are far too major behaviors there that seriously violate the standards for truly scientific research. Just to name a few: presenting bogus credentials is illegitimate, presenting the unqualified judgments of unqualified individuals on sensitive scientific matters is illegitimate, plagiarizing is illegitimate, presenting one's religious beliefs as unquestionable is illegitimate, presenting one's beliefs as the sole criterion by which to judge the validity of scientific findings is illegitimate, presenting deliberately falsified information is illegitimate, etc. I could go on and on. I also can give many specific examples here. For example, the moon-dust argument has been debunked, the human-footprints-wit-the dinosaurs-argument has been debunked, the Darwin's-finches argument has been debunked, the variable-c argument has been debunked. Now, all this has been admitted by the creation-science community, and yet creation-science people continue to present these arguments. As to bogus degrees, check out Baugh, Missler, Hovind, Ham, Bergman, Setterfield, etc.
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I'd do a bit more checking on Lisle. Seems more than one of his books was published by Kindle, a vanity press. I am always suspicious an anything that does not come from a peer-reviewed press.
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I gather, Dingdong, you haven't studied much science or physics. Funny how the scientific community disagrees with you. Guess they're all wrong. Glad a wizard and genius like you came along to straighten us all out.
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They don't need much to convince them that simple coded info received at SETI indicates an intelligent source. Just a few beeps in a mathematical sequence and they will go completely epileptic in their effusive enthusiasm over the discovery. Show them the infinitely far more complex DNA coded info and they automatically go catatonic and self-lobotomize.
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Hi dece,
There's a reasonably good movie on the subject called 'A Matter of Faith'. It makes the point that neither evolution nor created as is, are provable points. But, we must keep in mind that the Scriptures are quite clear that the world at large is against God. So, we should not be surprised that the majority of people would set out to 'prove' the deniability of God's truth. Man's heart is wicked! Paul wrote to his protege Timothy that a time was coming when men would not put up with sound doctrine but rather would surround themselves by a crowd of witnesses to tell them what their itching ears want to hear. I think it good that we bear that in mind always.
It's a matter of faith!
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
There's a reasonably good movie on the subject called 'A Matter of Faith'. It makes the point that neither evolution nor created as is, are provable points. But, we must keep in mind that the Scriptures are quite clear that the world at large is against God. So, we should not be surprised that the majority of people would set out to 'prove' the deniability of God's truth. Man's heart is wicked! Paul wrote to his protege Timothy that a time was coming when men would not put up with sound doctrine but rather would surround themselves by a crowd of witnesses to tell them what their itching ears want to hear. I think it good that we bear that in mind always.
It's a matter of faith!
God bless you.
In Christ, Ted
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I don't think that is at all a valid point, Miamited. First of all, what truth of God are we talking about? What you believe? What someone else believes? Secondly, hating God has not9ing whatsoever to do with serious scientific work.
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