As to the Nicene Creed, again my brothers, IT IS NOT THE NICENE CREED!
The Nicene Council only took up the issue of Christ's divinity, and did not adress the Holy Spirit at all.
The final form of the Nicene Creed was formalized at Ephesus, which was conducted in a highly acrimonious and un-Christian like manner, leading to one of the early schism of the Church, whereby Nestor was UNFAIRLY branded a heretic. With Nestor and the repudiation of Antioch by the more politically powerful Alexandria, ended the time of literal Bible interpretation.
SO, in fact, the formalization of the creed we now call "Nicene" took place as the original Fundys were cast out of the Church and replaced by the "allegorical" interpreters of the Scriptures, which we so much oppose.
And of course, all that before the RC got the creed wrong AGAIN, and caused the Great Schism of 1054 by adding the "filoque clause" unilateraly.
In the meantime, the circus that became early Church politics moved on to Chalcedon, where the politics got REALLY nasty and yet, despite it all, we got an even better orthodox set of definitions.
So, anyway, can somebody point me or paste here which one of the many "Nicene Creeds" making the rounds is now the policy at christianforums.com?
JR