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Let's say you were on a jury in a murder case. The prosecution calls a witness to the stand, and under examination the witness states that he knows that the defendant is guilty. When the prosecution asks how the witness knows this, the witness states that Zeus showed him the truth.
Would you convict on the basis of this "evidence"?
I am confused.
You started a thread and keep saying you don't have time for this, because you have better things to do, yet you keep posting.
What's up with that?
I avoided pointing that out long ago.I am confused.
You started a thread and keep saying you don't have time for this, because you have better things to do, yet you keep posting.
What's up with that?
If someone doesn't want to answer a personal question about themselves, I don't typically push for an answer. So I'll drop it.
However from what I can see, you responded and participated in other direct personal discussions within this thread that didn't meet the criteria you just listed. Even just a few posts back. But I will drop it.
Lol! Anything actually worth saying, or just another way to troll?
I would be curious as to your answer, so if you'd like to answer in PM please feel free. If not, no worries, as I said, I won't push it.I dont mind answering questions about my personal faith. I dont wish to do so in this thread because it is not its purpose. If my belief is questioned and relevant it is answered, if I do not find it relevant I ask it be moved elsewhere. Even pm if you so chose, just not here.
I'm not afraid of questions, but I ask my own and expect answers if I give them as well.
Because I am a Christian speaking with atheists does not mean automatically my belief is up for debate.yet another flaw in the thinking on this board. If you can show me where I welcomed questions concerning evidence of my own faith in this board, show me. Otherwise perhaps you should reread the posting.
In my experience, bhsmte is not a troll. He has in interest in the psychology and motivations of individuals. Noticing that you keep saying you will be done with the thread, but then returning ... would raise such a question by someone interested in such behavior.Lol! Anything actually worth saying, or just another way to troll?
This thread is not about my faith and had a person been paying attention, they would see that this post is about proper etiquette within a rational, purposeful conversation.
If you can show me where I welcomed questions concerning evidence of my own faith in this board, show me.
I don't have a posting history with Freodin. If you do and are going off of previous posting history, that's another matter. In the discussion I saw, I don't see where he was being insincere. You had an opportunity to explain the answers to his questions. Which you attempted to do. You didn't like his response, and then blamed him. That's what it appeared like to me.
It's essentially:
Let me ask you this: do you ever take responsibility if someone else doesn't get to the same point as you think you have, when you are the one presenting the information and the "how to" ? Or is it always a case of the other person being at fault somehow ?
Is telling someone they have a contrarian spirit and that they are asking stupid questions going to help people get along ?
To the bolded part: yet all throughout history people have claimed to experience God, gods, and supernatural beings apart from "inner relationships" only. So if people are seeing burning bushes, being freed from prisons by angels, finding discs in the US, parting seas, having arms and legs grow back, etc ... all accounts common to various Christian denominations, etc ... is it ridiculous to ask for physical evidence ? And if you are unable to produce anything of the sort, why is that the problem of others ? According to commonly referenced scriptures, did the Egyptians not experience and see some of the same things the Israelites saw in their exodus ? The Egyptians didn't believe in the God of the Hebrews, yet according to the scriptures they saw some pretty extraordinary evidence. Enough to convince them to pay heed to the Hebrews. Did the unbelievers in Jesus' day not see the same miracles Jesus performed ? Didn't many of them actually believe Jesus was doing those things by the power of evil ? So even then, evidence was still there, and as I recall, even Jesus appealed to it (I had to Google this lol, it's from John 14):
"Believe me when I say that I am in the Father and the Father is in me; or at least believe on the evidence of the works themselves."
You even answered this question here, seeming to indicate that people could have an objective experience with God. So why are those who are asking for evidence so frowned upon by you ?
Because, we don't have ANY evidence of the truth of the claims of Bible characters from 3000 years ago that prove the miraculous things you mentioned.
I see this logic applied to belief system but tell me, do you require as much "evidence" about everything in life?
You are spot on.
Answer "no" they don't require as much "evidence" at all about many important things. And they should read Michael Polanyi, more carefully.
Of coarse God exists, the universe would collapse without him.
He interacts with everyone who wants to be interacted with.
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