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Well, thats a false statement then. Clearly homosexuality is inherent in God's design.
Casting stones is where you condemn someone to death. Adam and Eve were good, until they sinned and they were cast out of the garden. Then, they became fruitful and multiplied. Adam's son was created in the image of Adam, a sinner. From sin came homosexuality. Adam and Eve weren't homosexuals, so it was not part of God's original design.You have repeatedly called it perverted. This is an insult and, thus, qualifies as 'casting stones'.
How do you know God thinks humans are important, how do you know how important God thinks humans are? If not form the Bible? If from the Bible then God must think the Bible is important. Dont you know that Jesus cited the scriptures and said that they point to Him. Dont you believe Jesus said he was speaking for the Father God?God doesn't think the Bible is important, he thinks humans are important. So, to answer your question..
On the contrary if you read the Bible properly you will see that same-sex sex is condemned as something Gods people shouldnt do throughout the Biblical times.Because the parts of the Bible written about homosexuality refer to a time when it was a maladaptive practice, due to the subsistance economy of semi nomadic herders...
Of course te Bible is a guide but it also records the words of Jesus who was speaking the words of the Father. You cant make such a legalistic generalisation.The Bible is a GUIDE, it is NOT literally the word of God....
then where DOES homosexuality orignate from?We all came from one man and one women. They became fruitful and multiplied. Homosexuality did not originate with them.
God thinks humans are important. We know this because he sent his only begoten son to die for us.How do you know God thinks humans are important, how do you know how important God thinks humans are? If not form the Bible? If from the Bible then God must think the Bible is important. Don’t you know that Jesus cited the scriptures and said that they point to Him. Don’t you believe Jesus said he was speaking for the Father God?
Riiiight... because, as I say... "Because the parts of the Bible written about homosexuality refer to a time when it was a maladaptive practice, due to the subsistance economy of semi nomadic herders... "On the contrary if you read the Bible properly you will see that same-sex sex is condemned as something God’s people shouldn’t do throughout the Biblical times.
So? Would you like to make any more out of context quotes?Of course te Bible is a guide but it also records the words of Jesus who was speaking the words of the Father. You cant make such a legalistic generalisation.
John 14:24 “He who does not love me will not obey my teaching. These words you hear are not my own; they belong to the Father who sent me.”
Adam and Eve were not real people. Quit mistaking alegorical myth for historical factAdam and Eve weren't homosexuals, so it was not part of God's original design.
Where does that idea come then if not from the Bible?God thinks humans are important. We know this because he sent his only begoten son to die for us.
Neither am I saying the Bible is all direct word from God nor have I suggested Jesus said that. But you cant say the Bible isn’t the word of God, it does contain the words of God and it contains words that are inspired by God.Jesus is saying HIS words come from the Father, he is NOT saying that the Bible is all direct word of God.
How do you know? You weren’t there at creation. Can I therefore point out that Adam and Eve were man and woman and probably not mythological homosexuals, but probably mythological heterosexuals.Adam and Eve were not real people. Quit mistaking alegorical myth for historical fact
quit pretending I ever said ALL the Bible is wrong... I have only ever said it isn't perfect, nor is it direct word of God... show me where I ever implied that it doesn't have SOME factual information in it?Dear EnemyPartyII
Where does that idea come then if not from the Bible?
I asked you how know God thinks these things if not from then Bible and you have just answered me with something from the Bible.
Neither am I saying the Bible is all direct word from God nor have I suggested Jesus said that. But you cant say the Bible isn’t the word of God, it does contain the words of God and it contains words that are inspired by God.
How do you know? You weren’t there at creation. Can I therefore point out that Adam and Eve were man and woman and probably not mythological homosexuals, but probably mythological heterosexuals.
Hold on... so now you agree that parts of the Bible ARE merely the work of its human authors?Neither am I saying the Bible is all direct word from God nor have I suggested Jesus said that. But you cant say the Bible isn’t the word of God, it does contain the words of God and it contains words that are inspired by God.
No, I wasn't. Fortunately scientific evidence does not require an eyewitness to confirm the accuracy of a theory.How do you know? You weren’t there at creation.
And their children were all mythologically incestuous, and their grandchildren where all mythologically inbred... whats your point?Can I therefore point out that Adam and Eve were man and woman and probably not mythological homosexuals, but probably mythological heterosexuals.
No I never said you said that either. I merely pointed out you said the Bible is not God’s word, and I have shown you some of the Bible is. You also asked did Jesus come for people or the law, and obviously he came for both as fulfilment of the law was part of His plan for the salvation. Mine is a holistic approach your is a legalistic ‘this or that’ approachquit pretending I ever said ALL the Bible is wrong... I have only ever said it isn't perfect, nor is it direct word of God... show me where I ever implied that it doesn't have SOME factual information in it?
All of the Bible is the work of human authors.Hold on... so now you agree that parts of the Bible ARE merely the work of its human authors?
But there isn’t any scientific evidence.No, I wasn't. Fortunately scientific evidence does not require an eyewitness to confirm the accuracy of a theory.
My point is the point I made addressing what you said. Adam and Eve were man and woman, whether mythological or real.If you don’t believe it you don’t believe the recorded words of Jesus that in the beginning God made them male and female.And their children were all mythologically incestuous, and their grandchildren where all mythologically inbred... whats your point?
wanna bet?But there isn’t any scientific evidence.
so... was Jesus making this comment to condemn homosexuality... or was he making this comment to confirm that both men and women are children of God?My point is the point I made addressing what you said. Adam and Eve were man and woman, whether mythological or real.If you don’t believe it you don’t believe the recorded words of Jesus that in the beginning God made them male and female.
Since I have no idea what site you're talking about, I'll chalk this up to lack of advertising.I might say somewhere on my site that I don't debate people who don't listen????
A crude description, but accurate enough. What is your point?Spermie. Egg. If they don't get it right the first time, no reproduction. The egg has to have the outer shell/membrane. The sperm has to have the helmet and a tail- otherwise it doesn't stand a chance.
You are asking for someone to prove a negative. Since there is no reason to believe that homosexuality came about because of direct intervention, and there is every reason to believe that it did, well, the logic speaks for itself.Yes, exactly, and I'd like to see anyone try to prove that homosexuality came about without direct intervention- or with it.
Proof is for mathematics and alcohol. Biology deals in evidenced probability, and the evidence points to natural homosexuality.You can't prove it either way, so you cannot know whether or not it is natural. Like I said, statistics don't make something natural.
Adam and Eve were ignorant of morality until they ate of that infamous fruit. To call them 'good' is to assume they followed a moral code.Adam and Eve were good, until they sinned and they were cast out of the garden.
Why do you say this?From sin came homosexuality.
Adam and Eve weren't Asian either.Adam and Eve weren't homosexuals, so it was not part of God's original design.
What idea?Homosexuality perverts this idea
You have yet to demonstrate how homosexuality isn't part of design.by saying it isn't sin and part of God's design when it wasn't. That is twisting the truth to advocate a lie. Satan is the father of lies.
*sigh* I know what 'perverted' means. For something to be perverted, there must be a benchmark upon which it is so deemed: one cannot call something perverted without implicitly calling something else non-perverted.To pervert means to:
per·vert play_w("P0214600") (pr-vûrt )tr.v. per·vert·ed, per·vert·ing, per·verts 1. To cause to turn away from what is right, proper, or good; corrupt.
2. To bring to a bad or worse condition; debase.
3. To put to a wrong or improper use; misuse. See Synonyms at corrupt.
4. To interpret incorrectly; misconstrue or distort: an analysis that perverts the meaning of the poem.
n. (pûrvûrt ) One who practices sexual perversion.
God's call to better ourselves, to overcome our inherent sinful nature, is nothing more than that.If you don't believe in that story, then what do you believe concerning the origin of Satan and sin?
You have yet to demonstrate how homosexuality isn't part of design.
Adam and Eve were ignorant of morality until they ate of that infamous fruit. To call them 'good' is to assume they followed a moral code.
Adam and Eve did not exist as real humans. And the resurrection did not literally happen. There was never a virgin birth either. These are all stories. They may illustrate moral points, but they are certainly not literally true.The garden story explains how Satan became the prince of this world through separating us from God. It also explains how sin entered the world. If there is no Adam and Eve, that is like telling me there is no resurrection. I don't believe we came from animals, but I am also open to the fact that the earth wasn't created in "7 days". I am very open to the fact the one day in God's time can equal 1000 years or 1,000,000,000 years, or are references to different periods in time.
Adam and Eve and Satan use to be all good, until they either sinned or sin was found in them. Remember, God made the beasts of the earth according to their kinds and the livestock according to their kinds, and everything that creeps on the ground according to its kind. And God saw that it was good. (Genesis 1:25)
Satan use to be good.
Adam and Eve use to be good.
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