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<blockquote data-quote="FrumiousBandersnatch" data-source="post: 76483210" data-attributes="member: 241055"><p>So basically all anecdotal and unverifiable. Unless you have a link to an English translation of this 'systematic investigation', I can only shrug, refer you to my previous answer (also see <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments" target="_blank">Asch conformity experiments)</a>, and point out that there are numerous sceptical responses to the accounts that don't require supernatural explanations, e.g. <a href="https://skepticalinquirer.org/2019/05/fatima-miracle-claims-all-wet/" target="_blank">Fatima Miracle Claims All Wet</a>, <a href="https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4110" target="_blank">Illuminating the Fatima Miracle of the Sun</a>, <a href="https://www.livescience.com/29290-fatima-miracle.html" target="_blank">The Lady of Fátima & the Miracle of the Sun</a>, <a href="https://thesaker.is/debunking-the-fatima-hoax/" target="_blank">Debunking the Fatima hoax</a>.</p><p></p><p>Frankly, applying reasonable criteria for 'argument to the best explanation', I have much a higher credence for explanations that don't require an unsubstantiated, untestable ontology, with no explanatory scope or power, that's entirely outside of and contradictory to our best-tested knowledge of the world, and that raises more unanswerable questions than it purports to answer. YMMV.</p><p></p><p>I can explain the paragraph above in more detail if you missed my previous explanations in these forums - just ask.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="FrumiousBandersnatch, post: 76483210, member: 241055"] So basically all anecdotal and unverifiable. Unless you have a link to an English translation of this 'systematic investigation', I can only shrug, refer you to my previous answer (also see [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asch_conformity_experiments']Asch conformity experiments)[/URL], and point out that there are numerous sceptical responses to the accounts that don't require supernatural explanations, e.g. [URL='https://skepticalinquirer.org/2019/05/fatima-miracle-claims-all-wet/']Fatima Miracle Claims All Wet[/URL], [URL='https://skeptoid.com/episodes/4110']Illuminating the Fatima Miracle of the Sun[/URL], [URL='https://www.livescience.com/29290-fatima-miracle.html']The Lady of Fátima & the Miracle of the Sun[/URL], [URL='https://thesaker.is/debunking-the-fatima-hoax/']Debunking the Fatima hoax[/URL]. Frankly, applying reasonable criteria for 'argument to the best explanation', I have much a higher credence for explanations that don't require an unsubstantiated, untestable ontology, with no explanatory scope or power, that's entirely outside of and contradictory to our best-tested knowledge of the world, and that raises more unanswerable questions than it purports to answer. YMMV. I can explain the paragraph above in more detail if you missed my previous explanations in these forums - just ask. [/QUOTE]
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