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I don't know, but that is not my problem. You made the claim you need to provide the evidence for us to evaluate to see if we are convinced by it.What would good evidence of verbal plenary inspiration look like?
Meh. If there's no evidence, there's nothing to show it ever happened.Others, when it's explained to them that a given event or series of events didn't generate any evidence, or it did, but the evidence was removed or cleaned up for legitimate reasons, will display their versions of the backfire effect, usually in the form of blasphemy, then go elsewhere and ask or demand evidence for the same event or series of evens from someone else.
Thus the Documentation.Meh. If there's no evidence, there's nothing to show it ever happened.
But if those notes simply amount to..."God said abracadabra"...with no corroborating evidence for their veracity other than the notes themselves, then the odds are that those notes are pure fantasy.Notes left behind saying, "This is what I did, when I did it, where I did it, how I did it, what order I did it in, why I did it, how long it took me to do it, and who the eyewitnesses are."
Did Jesus walk on water? or are you expecting to find footprints on the sea of Galilee?But if those notes simply amount to..."God said abracadabra"...with no corroborating evidence for their veracity other than the notes themselves, then the odds are that those notes are pure fantasy.
Nope, not expecting to find footprints...but creating the entire universe...now for that I would expect to find something...somewhere. So what have you got?Did Jesus walk on water? or are you expecting to find footprints on the sea of Galilee?
Why?Nope, not expecting to find footprints...but creating the entire universe...now for that I would expect to find something...somewhere.
I asked you what you had in the way of evidence...it appears that the answer is nothing.Why?
Just like He walked on water, He created the universe.
If you're talking about the Creation Week:I asked you what you had in the way of evidence...it appears that the answer is nothing.
Is that correct?
why do you believe this?If you're talking about the Creation Week:
No evidence of the Creation Week was generated, since the Creation Week consisted of a series of one miracle after another that raised the amount of mass/energy in the universe from zero to what it is today.
Ex nihilo creation does not generate evidence.
If you're talking about the Flood:
God cleaned up His mess after the Flood by re-floreating the earth, so as to facilitate its repopulation in the fastest way possible.
For one thing, I have a specific set of standards I go by:why do you believe this?
how does this answer my question of why do you believe the Bible was inspired by god? This just says you believe it was. What convinces you the Bible is true?For one thing, I have a specific set of standards I go by:
1. Bible says x, Science says x = go with x
2. Bible says x, Science says y = go with x
3. Bible says x, Science says ø = go with x
4. Bible says ø, Science says x = go with x
5. Bible says ø, Science says ø = free to speculate on your own
Prime Directive: Under no circumstances whatsoever is the Bible to be contradicted.
For another, the Bible is my Guide for faith and practice.
John 4:24 God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth.
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth.
Psalm 119:105 Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.
The Holy Ghost.What convinces you the Bible is true?
Question: How am I to know that it's the Holy Ghost, and not simply your own personal ego? For that matter, how do you know?The Holy Ghost.
For lack of a better explanation, I say it's by way of impressions on my engrams.Question: How am I to know that it's the Holy Ghost, and not simply your own personal ego? For that matter, how do you know?
So the Holy Spirit convinces you the Bible is true and you know the Holy Spirit is real because the Bible says so.The Holy Ghost.
1 Thessalonians 2:13 For this cause also thank we God without ceasing, because, when ye received the word of God which ye heard of us, ye received it not as the word of men, but as it is in truth, the word of God, which effectually worketh also in you that believe.
In other words, you don't know. You're experiencing the exact same sense of self-assurance that everyone experiences from time to time, and you're simply equating it with the Holy Ghost because that suits your own personal narrative. Myself, I think that you're wrong. I think that the Holy Ghost would show a lot more humility.For lack of a better explanation, I say it's by way of impressions on my engrams.Question: How am I to know that it's the Holy Ghost, and not simply your own personal ego? For that matter, how do you know?
Kind of like a sixth sense.
A "meeting of the minds," so to speak, as your spirit and your mind line up and walk in step together.
Another thread had a curious title.
Independently REPEATABLE evidence of miracles. Which is a logical contradiction in the sense that by definition researchers cannot repeat the supernatural, otherwise it wouldn’t be supernatural.
So all that can be done is
1/ to identify evidence of the unexplained.
2/ to confirm it is inexplicable, by breaking a fundamental paradigm of science as it is known
( eg prophecy as a simple example because of time arrow, consciousness outside the brain )
3/ that there is no credible means of faking the evidence.
The only repeat possible is reassessment of evidence, not repeat the event.
But 1-3 deal only with defining something as supernatural, not a miracle which ascribes a cause.
Since God is not in the model of science , nor can science proclaim Him as a verdict, a limitation of science, not God.
So all we can do is is state
4/ it occurs in the theistic context
And
5/ the church adds other conditions too
Reality is there is a lot of such evidence.
Take miracle healings at Lourdes.
The lame walk, the blind see.
The process is massive to declare it so, from a large medical panel any qualified medic can join, most are not religious. They declare inexplicable , not just unexplained. ( Lourdes medical commission do that part )
The second declaration is by the church 4/ 5/ which is just as stringent. Many healings declared supernatural by medics, don’t pass the churches criteria as miracle. .
So what is left?
Take this. A pelvic cancer before cancers were in anyway curable had destroyed all the pelvic bone to a leg bone connected only by small amounts of soft tissue.
Journey to Lourdes healing waters.
Bone reappeared albeit a shorter leg. Pain disappeared. Cancer gone.
Appeared in serious medical journals.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6027009/pdf/10.1179_0024363913Z.00000000015.pdf
A medical doctor Heads up the commission for typically 10 years a time.
A couple have written books.
Romans 10:17 So then faith cometh by hearing, and hearing by the word of God.So the Holy Spirit convinces you the Bible is true and you know the Holy Spirit is real because the Bible says so.
Nope, not expecting to find footprints...but creating the entire universe...now for that I would expect to find something...somewhere. So what have you got?
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