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Sorry, but it is CHRIST who unites Christians as one body of believers, not Mary.


Jesus said to the Discple who Jesus loved,
John 26..27:
So when Jesus saw his mother and the disciple who was dear to him, he said to his mother, Mother, there is your son!
Then he said to the disciple, There is your mother! And from that hour the disciple took her to his house.


The Mother has the role of a Divine Mother.
All those Apparitions confirm Her role...
I don't say this thing because I am catholic or etc...
Infact I am a protestant... more than a catholic... because this Church is able to teach Christ teachments more.
For example a christian family can have a real way... and more dignity...
The scriptures say, Isaiah 58, 6:
Is not this the holy day for which I have given orders: to let loose those who have wrongly been made prisoners, to undo the bands of the yoke, and to let the crushed go free, and every yoke be broken?
 
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In John 26:27, the Lord is speaking to one person - the disciple to whom He was speaking specifically, not telling the whole world that Mary was their mother.
Apparitions just distract people from Christ and I have no idea what that verse in Isaiah has to do with the topic.
 
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Christ Jesus is my Lord and Savior, how again does that make me related to His earthly mommy?
Are you suggesting that Christ's divinity and humanity are divisible somehow?

Here we go again......
 
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Are you suggesting that His mother had divinity because He did?
Oh classic. No, hate to burst your bubble, but I don't worship Mary.

Now answer my question.
 
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Oh classic. No, hate to burst your bubble, but I don't worship Mary.

Now answer my question.


I'm sensing some insincerity in your words. I spent most of my youth in and out of catholic church, but I never paid attention. Once I finally cared enough to study the bible I did so on my own accord, and I only understand mary as blessed, but not divine.

I cannot even begin to fully understand the divinity of Christ so I can't say.

All I wanted to know was how I was related to her since I follow Christ.

And I don't have a bubble to burst, so sorry
 
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Christ Jesus is my Lord and Savior, how again does that make me related to His earthly mommy?

"Earthly"?

She bore God in her womb for nine months. She isn't called the Mother of God and Theotokos for nothing.

Are you suggesting that His mother had divinity because He did?

Straw Man.

I'm sensing some insincerity in your words. I spent most of my youth in and out of catholic church,

Which it seems clear you never understood.

but I never paid attention.

Which is why you should have, because otherwise, you wouldn't accuse Apostolic Christians, especially Vatican Catholics, of things they don't believe do or believe in.

Once I finally cared enough to study the bible I did so on my own accord, and I only understand mary as blessed, but not divine.

Straw Man.

Oh Mother of God, forgive your children, for they know not what they do. Pray for the salvation of their souls and ask your Son to absolve them of their offensive remarks against you, the Mother of Grace, Love, Salvation, Mercy, Peace, and Life. I ask this through the Holy Spirit in the Name of your Son, Jesus the Christ.
 
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I can always rely on PaladinValer to carry on debates when I'm not around.

And there was nothing insincere about my words. What I'm driving at is that because you say Mary was Christ's "earthly" mother, you seem to subscribe to some kind of heretical theology likely similar to one that was condemned 1500 years ago. Christ was Incarnate fully God and fully man, two natures in one person. Those natures aren't separable -- indeed, He ascended bodily into Heaven. Did Mary cease to be His mother at that moment? No, no reasonable person would argue that. So how is she only His earthly mother? Doesn't make a shred of sense.
 
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Mary is not my mother. Yes, she was the mother of Christ's incarnate nature. Yes she was a good woman.

However, she is not my mother and she is dead now and has no special spiritual authority.

In becoming Baptized Christians, we have become adopted sons of God.

That would make Jesus our spiritual Brother.

And thus, that would make St. Mary the Theotokos our spiritual Mother.

So yes; she is your mommy.
 
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Rom 11:1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
Rom 11:2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the Scripture saith of Elijah? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,


Rom 11:17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert grafted in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
Rom 11:18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
Rom 11:19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be grafted in.
Rom 11:20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
Rom 11:21 For if God spared not the natural branches, takeheed lest he also spare not thee.
Rom 11:22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
Rom 11:23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be grafted in: for God is able to graft them in again.
Rom 11:24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert grafted contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be grafted into their own olive tree?
Rom 11:25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles be come in.
Rom 11:26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Zion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
Rom 11:27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
Rom 11:28 As concerning the gospel, theyare enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, theyare beloved for the fathers' sakes.


Grafted in would more pertain to Abraham being our father. Should we then worship him too as father.
 
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It's referring to Israel, and the fact that the gentiles, as believing Christians, are part of the house of Israel, the seed of Abraham, Gods chosen ones. Not separate from it, but grafted to it. it in no wise tells us we are the children of Mary. As a matter of fact when Peter wanted to worship Moses. God told Peter no to worship Jesus alone. in him alone is my salvation, and no other. he makes intersession to the father for me, as no other can. he is my salvation, on him is hung the salvation of all men everywhere. in no other name shall men be saved.
 
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