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<blockquote data-quote="Rize" data-source="post: 593333" data-attributes="member: 4774"><p>The four corners are metaphorical.&nbsp; The Bible also says that the earth is a circle (the hebrew word can also mean sphere).&nbsp; So you might say it's a flat circle, but that wouldn't have four corners either.&nbsp; So you either have a contradiction or a metaphor.&nbsp; Given today's knowledge of shape of the earth, which one is the metaphor, and the exact meaning of the word "circle"&nbsp;is crystal clear.</p><p></p><p>I'm well aware that science works precisely because of change.&nbsp; However, in observational science, the incorrect theory is relatively short lived.&nbsp; A science hypothesizes something and tests it.&nbsp; Then it is either supported or it isn't.&nbsp; If it is, more testing is done in various ways to increase the support for it.&nbsp; This works quite well as evidenced by technology.</p><p></p><p>Yet the amount and kind of change in historical sciences is completely different.&nbsp; And the lessons from various court cases (microcosms of the cases for&nbsp;historical theories in science) that were overturned tells me that I shouldn't place much faith in historical scientific theories.&nbsp; It is necessary for us to have a justice system even if&nbsp;it is fallible.&nbsp; It is <em>not</em> necessary for a Christian to adhere to a scientific case for the earth's history.</p><p></p><p>Naturally you will attack what we do have faith in, the Bible.&nbsp; But as I said, we have other reasons for believing the Bible.&nbsp; I've seen and experienced miracles first hand myself.&nbsp; This doesn't prove the Bible of course, but it proves (to me) the existance of a spiritual realm and in my investigation of <em>that,</em> I've come to the conclusion that Christianity is correct (and this has been confirmed to me by various methods).</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rize, post: 593333, member: 4774"] The four corners are metaphorical. The Bible also says that the earth is a circle (the hebrew word can also mean sphere). So you might say it's a flat circle, but that wouldn't have four corners either. So you either have a contradiction or a metaphor. Given today's knowledge of shape of the earth, which one is the metaphor, and the exact meaning of the word "circle" is crystal clear. I'm well aware that science works precisely because of change. However, in observational science, the incorrect theory is relatively short lived. A science hypothesizes something and tests it. Then it is either supported or it isn't. If it is, more testing is done in various ways to increase the support for it. This works quite well as evidenced by technology. Yet the amount and kind of change in historical sciences is completely different. And the lessons from various court cases (microcosms of the cases for historical theories in science) that were overturned tells me that I shouldn't place much faith in historical scientific theories. It is necessary for us to have a justice system even if it is fallible. It is [I]not[/I] necessary for a Christian to adhere to a scientific case for the earth's history. Naturally you will attack what we do have faith in, the Bible. But as I said, we have other reasons for believing the Bible. I've seen and experienced miracles first hand myself. This doesn't prove the Bible of course, but it proves (to me) the existance of a spiritual realm and in my investigation of [I]that,[/I] I've come to the conclusion that Christianity is correct (and this has been confirmed to me by various methods). [/QUOTE]
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