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That there is a "best", far less an ultimate set
of values in no way logically follows.
Agreed. But this only shows we have yet to achieve knowledge of the perfect morality of God. And even if we had, and knew we had, there remains the task of actually implementing it, which is a whole different can of worms, depending as it does on good character, spiritual stature and moral fibre.
Best wishes, Strivax.
I think it does. If you can rank ethical systems on a qualitative basis as some better than others, it surely follows that one of them is best of them all. Even if we disagree on what is best, that does not interfere with the logic of objectivity.
Best wishes, Strivax.
I wish Christianity did provide a better format for moral
behaviour.
Unfortunately, the sanctioning of atrocities is hardwired
into the Bible, as anyone who has read it has seen
for himself.
Well yes, i kinda said you cant put metrics to quality.I presume you are not a Taliban militant. If so, I expect that has something to do with your preference for a different moral code. You cannot measure quality by numbers (that is quantitative, not qualitative) only by appreciation, for which you need to be mentally adequate to make the appropriate judgement. None of this means all ethical systems are equal. For all I know, you may have a better grasp on morality than I do, and I need to improve, either in understanding, or in implementation. Your assistance, either way or both, would be appreciated, but so far, it seems to me, my logic remains intact.
Best wishes, Strivax.
That's why Jesus was sent, to correct the Jews of His time, and provide an example for us all to follow.
Best wishes, Strivax.
Jesus was sent by God to say that God
had been doing things wrong and not
to follow His examples of whats ok to,do?
Well yes, i kinda said you cant put metrics to quality.
Darn difficult to even say what quality is.
I mention talibans as an example of how
ethics / morality are largely a matter of opinion.
The ideac of discreet sets of moral principles
that can be objectively ranked as to what is
" better" or has more " quality" leading toward
"best" isnt merely illogical, its absurd.
What objective standards are there for "quality" of values?
" Measure by appreciation" lacks standard units.
Or, ftm, any meaning I am aware of.
If you know, i can learn it. I extremely doubt you do know.
Of course.I can't define quality, or what makes some object include more quality than others. But ask any violinist whether they would prefer a Stradivarius to any other fiddle. Or, why collectors might prefer an original Picasso to a copy. For example. I am sure, if you put your mind to it, you will be able to come up with similar transcending examples of quality.
Best wishes, 2RM.
So perfect objective morality changed?No, Jesus was sent by God to say (among much else) that He was not just the warrior king of the primitive bronze age Jews, but the loving Father of all mankind.
Best wishes, 2RM.
So perfect objective morality changed?
No, just human approximations to it. But to go back now to my original intervention, do you think paedophilia is objectively wrong, or just a matter of sexual preference?
Best wishes, Strivax.
Uh huh. Generally speaking John Stuart Mill's harm principle works for me. He thought that everything should be permitted, so long as no harm is done to anyone. So in the case of paedophilia, the child is harmed, sometimes physically, but almost always emotionally and psychologically. So it makes sense to outlaw the practice.
Best wishes, Strivax.
Yes, if you want. So if the harm is objective, why should a moral code that prevents it, not be?So like " earnestly try to minimize harm to others"
So like its objectively wrong to hit someone with a baseball batUh huh. Subjective is whatever you and I might happen to think. Objective is what actually is, whatever anyone thinks. Generally, subjective judgements cannot be verified in any way, where as objective facts can be, by observation.
Best wishes, Strivax.
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