The bible doesn't say he rules just Israel and the middle east - but the entire world.I don't think so .... the beast's little horn will invade Israel at the middle of the tribulation and rule for 42 months [1260 days .... the second half of the 70th week decreed for Israel] .... Egypt [the kingdom of the south] will have already fallen and made a part of his Middle Eastern kingdom before the battle of Armageddon at the end of the tribulation
.... Egypt does not appear in the line up of the Muslim kingdoms listed in Ezekiel 38 which will be destroyed by the Lord [Ezekiel 39]
It doesn't say two "kingdoms" of the north and south of Israel. But the king of the north and king of the south. The world near the end of the 7 years will be aligned by powers of the north, south, east, west. You never did address the news out of the east troubling him and the kings of the east in Revelation 16 crossing the dried up Euphrates.The current break up of the EU is foretelling .... Rome will not be revived as you think
Because the two kingdoms of the north and south of Israel at the time of the end can in no way be describe as a revived Euro-centered modern day Roman Empire ... Europe is neither north or south of the holy land
Who is that opposition from the east? You have a model of Assyria (the king of the north) versus Egypt (the king of the south), based on the historical verses in Daniel 11. But that historical model on what are now historical verses doesn't contain any eastern power because at the time of the Seleucid's and Ptolemy's there were not global powers."You never did address the news out of the east troubling him and the kings of the east inRevelation 16 crossing the dried up Euphrates."
The little horn will destroy [sweep away] his opposition from the east and from the north [Daniel 11:44]
.... now you explain all of this above and tell now your story fits
The bible doesn't say he rules just Israel and the middle east - but the entire world.
Revelation 13:7
And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
What you are doing is flaming. It would be like me commenting on what you write as it sounds like Donald Duck quacking. Those kind of remarks are against the forum rules.In other words, it sounds like pure FICTION to me.
I didn't write one world government. The beast will be the leader of the west. The west will be the dominant power in the world over the other three quadrants. It does so by having superior military strength and wealth.Once again Douggg, you are assigning your own interpretation to a biblical prophecy, without considering any alternative translation, and expecting everybody to accept it as fact. Having "power" over ever nation, does not necessarily mean "ruling" every nation in the world. Power over a nation, can also mean the capacity to "influence" the decisions, or destiny of other nations.
For example, the United States held the destiny and fate of Great Britain in it's hands during World War Two, that doesn't mean however the United States ruled Great Britain. After the Second World war, the United States became the leader of the Free World. That doesn't mean the United States became the "ruler" of the Free World.
So the "One World" Government you are proposing, is merely an "imaginary" construct, in which an Anti-Christ dictator is going to plant his flag in every nation on Earth, and honestly, I think you are jumping to conclusions without any solid evidence to back it up. In other words, it sounds like pure FICTION to me.
In Europe, the move to form a single military is the building of Europe from the EU to the European Superstate.
Thus we see that the leader of the `terrifying` Federation, overcomes his opposition, not so much by military power but by cunning & deceit.
Hi Marilyn, welcome to this forum. Same Marilyn from CARM, right?Hi Douggg,
If I may come in on this interesting conversation. Now let`s consider this scripture -
`A king shall arise having fierce features, who understands sinister schemes. His power shall be mighty but not by his own power: he shall destroy fearfully....through his cunning he shall cause deceit to prosper under his hand; & he shall magnify himself in his heart. He shall destroy many in their prosperity....` (Dan. 8: 24 & 25)
Thus we see that the leader of the `terrifying` Federation, overcomes his opposition, not so much by military power but by cunning & deceit.
regards, Marilyn.
Not true. Many of the important ones are on the entire world. Such as ,no one will be able to buy or sell without the mark, number, or name of the beast.In a nut shell .... the prophets visions are all focused upon Israel in the midst of the nations virulent enemies .... not other place upon the earth at the time of the end of this present age
Puitin cannot be the Antichrist because he cannot become the King of Israel.Exactly. It's history repeating itself. That's how Adolf Hitler came to power, by cunning and deceit. He stated many times, he would NEVER DECLARE WAR ON ANY COUNTRY, instead, he would just simply ATTACK when they didn't expect it. When he went into Austria, the Sudetenland, the Baltics and the Ukraine, he assured the world he was only protecting the ethnic German people who lived there, and Germany had no ambitions of creating a global empire. Hitler was even featured on the cover of Time Magazine in 1938 as the "Man of the Year" for promising to bring lasting Peace to Europe.
Vladimir Putin is following the same script. He didn't declare war on the Crimea. He hasn't declared war on the Ukraine either, even though he's supporting a civil war there, (ostensibly to protect ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine). Putin hasn't declared war on Turkey, although a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 fighter bomber was shot down in late 2015 by the Turks when it flew into Turkish territory in an area contested between Turkey and Syria. Russia hasn't declared war on the United States, even though Russian combat aircraft are bombing anti-Assad forces supported by the United States in Syria. Yet many people like Vladimir Putin and believe his claims he's only trying to bring "PEACE" to the world. Forbes Magazine twice named him the "Most Powerful Man In The World", (2012-2014).
Hitler came to power through the SA (a small group of radical thugs). Vladimir Putin began his career in East Germany with the KGB (a small group of thugs). Hitler was elected to power, so was Vladimir Putin. After the Reichstag was bombed, Hitler seized total power and eliminated the SA by murdering them. Putin's first act as President of Russia was to pardon Boris Yeltsin for any crimes related to corruption he may have committed while president, and then Putin began murdering and jailing any political dissenters in Russia, setting up a virtual Stalinist dictatorship, according to a U.S. State Department report in 2012.
Is it me, or am I the only one who sees the parallels here ?! Putin is being steered by the same demons as Adolf Hitler. The names and the faces may have changed, but the plan remains the same.
I think everybody has about one, two years left before WWIII kicks into high gear. In July 2015, Putin said that's how long it would take to completely modernize Russia's nuclear forces, and NATO would not be able to stop him in Europe. You know what ? I'd take that threat seriously.
Spreading radical Islamic terrorism is the vanguard of what is coming
Exactly. It's history repeating itself. That's how Adolf Hitler came to power, by cunning and deceit. He stated many times, he would NEVER DECLARE WAR ON ANY COUNTRY, instead, he would just simply ATTACK when they didn't expect it. When he went into Austria, the Sudetenland, the Baltics and the Ukraine, he assured the world he was only protecting the ethnic German people who lived there, and Germany had no ambitions of creating a global empire. Hitler was even featured on the cover of Time Magazine in 1938 as the "Man of the Year" for promising to bring lasting Peace to Europe.
Vladimir Putin is following the same script. He didn't declare war on the Crimea. He hasn't declared war on the Ukraine either, even though he's supporting a civil war there, (ostensibly to protect ethnic Russians living in the Ukraine). Putin hasn't declared war on Turkey, although a Russian Sukhoi Su-24 fighter bomber was shot down in late 2015 by the Turks when it flew into Turkish territory in an area contested between Turkey and Syria. Russia hasn't declared war on the United States, even though Russian combat aircraft are bombing anti-Assad forces supported by the United States in Syria. Yet many people like Vladimir Putin and believe his claims he's only trying to bring "PEACE" to the world. Forbes Magazine twice named him the "Most Powerful Man In The World", (2012-2014).
Hitler came to power through the SA (a small group of radical thugs). Vladimir Putin began his career in East Germany with the KGB (a small group of thugs). Hitler was elected to power, so was Vladimir Putin. After the Reichstag was bombed, Hitler seized total power and eliminated the SA by murdering them. Putin's first act as President of Russia was to pardon Boris Yeltsin for any crimes related to corruption he may have committed while president, and then Putin began murdering and jailing any political dissenters in Russia, setting up a virtual Stalinist dictatorship, according to a U.S. State Department report in 2012.
Is it me, or am I the only one who sees the parallels here ?! Putin is being steered by the same demons as Adolf Hitler. The names and the faces may have changed, but the plan remains the same.
I think everybody has about one, two years left before WWIII kicks into high gear. In July 2015, Putin said that's how long it would take to completely modernize Russia's nuclear forces, and NATO would not be able to stop him in Europe. You know what ? I'd take that threat seriously.
Hi Marilyn, welcome to this forum. Same Marilyn from CARM, right?
In Daniel 8:24-25, the person comes to be leader of the kingdom of the transgressors - the ten kings, who will eventually pledge their kingdom to him when he become the beast 3 1/2 years later (thereabouts) - through help of the occult, craft....
continues relying on the occult (Satan and fallen angels) for his success until the day he is destroyed by Jesus's return.
Initially, he becomes leader of the EU final form in the European Antichrist model, as king 7 of the Roman Empire, (kings of the Julio Claudian family - 6 of which are historic presently). That's him as the leader coming up among ten kings in Daniel 7.
In Daniel 8, he will have been the leader of the EU for a while - when Gog/Magog is on the verge of invading. Which is why it says he "stands up" in Daniel 8:23. "stands up" is an idiom, a saying, for prepares to go to war. It is something animals do right at they charge toward each other and fight.
So he positions his EU military in Greece, Daniel 8:9, to be a deterent to stave off the Gog/Magog invasion - which takes place anyway...and Gog's army is supernaturally destroyed by God. The little horn, and his European leaders move into the middle east grabbing up the oil fields in the aftermath, which is him gaining control of the former 3 historic kingdoms territories in Revelation 13.
In the aftermath of Gog/Magog, the Jews will think they are on the brink of the messianic age, and their deliverer is the little horn person because of his intent to come to the defense of Israel. He becomes the king of Israel, most likely anointed by the false prophet, who will arise. Thus, a false messianic age of peace and harmony, throughout the world will begin. He thus destroys many by peace, luring them into a false sense of security.
He confirms the Mt. Sinai covenant, as the Jews are expecting, by having the law read to the nation from the temple mount, Deuteronomy 31:9-13, to begin the 7 years. A perpetual cycle in the text of Deuteronomy 31:9-13 of a law that Moses made.
The false messianic age, and false messiah, causes many Christians to think the Jews were right all along, and the great falling away in Christianity will begin. 2thessalonians2:3-4.
3 years, 4 months into the 7 years, the sudden destruction begins, the Day of the Lord, when the person goes into the temple, which will be completed 220 days from the beginning of the 7 years, stopping the daily sacrifice, and sits claiming to be God..."the transgression" of desolation of Daniel 8, because he will have become magnified in his heart that he has achieved God- hood - which is in Daniel 8 and Ezekiel 28:1-10, which those two pair together by him being magnified in his heart, and Ezekiel 28:1-10 paired with 2thessalonians2:3-4 of sitting in the seat of God.
After God has the person killed for his audacious act of claiming to be God, and brought back to life in disdain for him; the person becomes possessed by the unclean spirit of the original beast ascending out of the bottomless pit - Nimrod, the Assyrian - which it all but names Nimrod in Micah 5 - the person become the 8th king of the Roman Empire, continuing the short space as it says in Revelation 17:10 of 42 months.
The ten kings of the European Superstate - which is in the process of creating its own military now - will pledge their kingdom to the person, and will rule with him for one hour - the 42 months, to dominate the world.
So yes, he uses craft to prosper from the outset, but he gets into it so heavily, that Satan is able to convince the person in his heart that he has achieved God-hood. The personality of the persons makes it possible because he seeks out help from the occult, Kabbalah, because he will be a Jew, and has a tremendous ego (not because he is a Jew, but just his particular personality).
To identify the person, in the early stages, what is necessary is that the person have a stern look about him, and that he is leader of Europe, over a ten king form of government, and is a Jew.
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