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To move this further if God is both the author of Good and evil then I should not try hard at work because if God wants to have me make my next rank I will if he dose not even if I am the best worker I will not make it so I should not try. If God wants me to get a DUI that will be none of my responsibility but will be God's will for me I should praise God for causing me to drink.
Like you said God was responsible for Pharaoh's hard heart. Pharaoh was innocently doing God's will.
Does the Bible portray Pharaoh as "innocently" doing God's will? How about the King's of Assyria and Babylon when they removed God's people from the promised land, they were certainly doing God's will when they removed them yet God finds fault with them in part because they make themselves out to be gods and in part because they have sinned against the People of God.
Nope God is sovereign over all. You say God dose not control all actions good and evil therefore your God is not sovereign but weak unable to have all men do his will since according to you man is responsible for his actions not God.
All the Elect will make a profession of faith, but not all who make a profession of faith are of the Elect.
All the Elect will continue to repent of sins, but not all who repent of sin are of the Elect.
This is true and I am reminded of the words of St. Paul;
For you have been saved by grace, through faith, and this is not your own doing but a gift of God, not a result of works such that no man can boast. We are his workmanship created again in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand, such that we might walk in them -- Eph 2:8-10
God, through his indwelling Spirit will cause the Elect to repent, if he so wills the non-Elect will repent, but this is merely a staying of his Judgment to come and he will surely pour out his wrath upon those vessels which he has reserved for it.
Why would God leave something as crucial to his plan as our choosing him up to us? As has been quoted earlier the Father draws we who are being sanctified to him, it is nothing in myself so that I may boast. God is the author of my Salvation from beginning to the end.
Like you said God was responsible for Pharaoh's hard heart. Pharaoh was innocently doing God's will.
You preach a salvation of works saying man has responsibility for his good and evil works when God alone is responsible for all good and evil actions.
Hitler,Stalin,Gandhi, Mr.Rogers all are doing the will of God which only God is responsible for not man.
I don't find it soThe fatalism implicit in Calvinism and predestination is depressing.
John 6?This is not the message of Jesus as reflected in the Gospels.
Agreed, though you are missing the changing of the will of man by the Holy Spirit.When Jesus, Paul or the other apostles mention the Elect, they mean all of mankind who have chosen of their free will to follow Jesus and live the Christian life.
Yes, and natural man's only inclination is to blaspheme and do violence against God.God is all powerful and, thus, has the power to grant free will to man.
I agree with all this, I don't think you understand my position.Every book of Scripture is teeming with exhortations by John the Baptist, Jesus, Paul and others to repent and follow Jesus. Jesus tells Peter "Feed my Lambs" He tells all of us to love our neighbor as ourself. He gives us Ten Commandments to guide us toward living a life that is pleasing to Him. God, through his infinite mercy has offered us salvation through his Son. It is our choice, not fate, whether we accept this gift!
Blulion, I have a simple question if it's ok:
If there was nothing before God, no good or evil, and nothing exist outside of God, then who created evil? Yes, I know the that darkness is the absent of light and light is the absent of darkness and that the absence of God is evil. But if God is ommipresent, omnipotent, omniscient, then God is everywhere and therefore evil couldn't exit according to the theory that evil is the absence of God. So, if nothing (can't pick and choose what nothing is) existed before God created it, then when did evil exist? Just curious
he was the first one to turn against God and disobey. satan started it. did God know he would do it yes, but he gave him a chance like everyone else, if for no other reason to show His Love for us, and prove those who are his will always turn back to him.
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