Eternal Marriage

[sthatting]

[BIBLE]Matthew 16:19[/BIBLE]

Does that mean marriage is eternal too? What says you?

 

[Renton405]

What God has put together let no man put asunder..

Since the 2 become 1 in marriage, you cannot really seperate them. You can divorce in civil court, but that dosen't really change your eternal vows..

The verses you posted is Jesus talking about the Catholic Church. Jesus gives Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven..Meaning the CC has the keys to heaven, with St. Peter as the Landlord.

 

[IamAdopted]

Mat 22:29 But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30 "For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

 

[billwald]

I say if there is no marriage then what is the purpose of the resurrection of the body?

 

[IamAdopted]

I say if there is no marriage then what is the purpose of the resurrection of the body?

We will be raised from corruptable to incorruptable.. For He is making a new heaven and a new earth.

 

[sthatting]

Mat 22:29 But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.
Mat 22:30"For in the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage, but are like angels in heaven.

This is a curious verse. It says in the resurrection, there are none given in marriage. What is the resurrection? Is that not the second coming?

If it is, that means that none will be given in marriage AFTER the second coming. You might want to re-read that. The question is posed by the lawmakers. He never answers the question fully... or... directly, I should say.

 

[sthatting]

What God has put together let no man put asunder..

Since the 2 become 1 in marriage, you cannot really seperate them. You can divorce in civil court, but that dosen't really change your eternal vows..

The verses you posted is Jesus talking about the Catholic Church. Jesus gives Peter the keys of the Kingdom of Heaven..Meaning the CC has the keys to heaven, with St. Peter as the Landlord.

He may be talking about the CC, but are there not sacraments in the CC? So, is it not safe to say that Jesus was talking about the ordinances of baptism, laying on of hands, marriage, etc.?

 

[IamAdopted]

This is a curious verse. It says in the resurrection, there are none given in marriage. What is the resurrection? Is that not the second coming?

If it is, that means that none will be given in marriage AFTER the second coming. You might want to re-read that. The question is posed by the lawmakers. He never answers the question fully... or... directly, I should say.

Never have seen eternal marriage. For scripture shows us that if on dies they are not longer bound to that person. But on what Jesus was saying there is no marriage..

 

[Deamiter]

I think it's important to go into context on that verse. The Pharisees were trying to trap Jesus in the verses before (where he says "render unto Caesar...", and here the Sadducees were asking what would happen to people who remarried after losing a spouse. The Hebrews were allowed (and often encouraged) to remarry after one spouse died, but in heaven which spouse would you actually be married to?

Jesus' answer goes on to make a deeper theological point by subtly redirecting the question.

Mat 22:29 Jesus replied, "You are in error because you do not know the Scriptures or the power of God.
Mat 22:30 At the resurrection people will neither marry nor be given in marriage; they will be like the angels in heaven.
Mat 22:31 But about the resurrection of the dead—have you not read what God said to you,
Mat 22:32 'I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob' ? He is not the God of the dead but of the living."

The crowd was then "astonished by his teaching" and there is a lot of significance I don't recall at the moment. However, I think it says something pretty clear about marriage -- in heaven we won't care about the things of the world. I almost think we will have close emotional (though probably not physical) relationships with all the elect in heaven.

There's also a possibility that we will have closer relationships with our spouses than with others even in heaven. Since the answer was directed at the issue of having multiple spouses in heaven, I wouldn't rule out the possibility.

In the end I don't think it matters much. When I'm taken to heaven, I will finally be freed of the aspects of this body that prevents me from devoting my every thought and breath to God. If I had to continue living in a fallen shell, I'd HATE to give up marriage but I expect that in heaven, the only thing I will miss is the presence of my unsaved friends.

 

[sthatting]

I think it's important to go into context on that verse. The Pharisees were trying to trap Jesus in the verses before (where he says "render unto Caesar...", and here the Sadducees were asking what would happen to people who remarried after losing a spouse. The Hebrews were allowed (and often encouraged) to remarry after one spouse died, but in heaven which spouse would you actually be married to?

Jesus' answer goes on to make a deeper theological point by subtly redirecting the question.


The crowd was then "astonished by his teaching" and there is a lot of significance I don't recall at the moment. However, I think it says something pretty clear about marriage -- in heaven we won't care about the things of the world. I almost think we will have close emotional (though probably not physical) relationships with all the elect in heaven.

There's also a possibility that we will have closer relationships with our spouses than with others even in heaven. Since the answer was directed at the issue of having multiple spouses in heaven, I wouldn't rule out the possibility.

In the end I don't think it matters much. When I'm taken to heaven, I will finally be freed of the aspects of this body that prevents me from devoting my every thought and breath to God. If I had to continue living in a fallen shell, I'd HATE to give up marriage but I expect that in heaven, the only thing I will miss is the presence of my unsaved friends.

Interesting post.

 

[IamAdopted]

I think it's important to go into context on that verse. The Pharisees were trying to trap Jesus in the verses before (where he says "render unto Caesar...", and here the Sadducees were asking what would happen to people who remarried after losing a spouse. The Hebrews were allowed (and often encouraged) to remarry after one spouse died, but in heaven which spouse would you actually be married to?

Jesus' answer goes on to make a deeper theological point by subtly redirecting the question.


The crowd was then "astonished by his teaching" and there is a lot of significance I don't recall at the moment. However, I think it says something pretty clear about marriage -- in heaven we won't care about the things of the world. I almost think we will have close emotional (though probably not physical) relationships with all the elect in heaven.

There's also a possibility that we will have closer relationships with our spouses than with others even in heaven. Since the answer was directed at the issue of having multiple spouses in heaven, I wouldn't rule out the possibility.

In the end I don't think it matters much. When I'm taken to heaven, I will finally be freed of the aspects of this body that prevents me from devoting my every thought and breath to God. If I had to continue living in a fallen shell, I'd HATE to give up marriage but I expect that in heaven, the only thing I will miss is the presence of my unsaved friends.

Well Jesus said that there was no marriage. Jesus does not lie. Same thing being. When a person marries and one spouse dies they are free to remarry. So now which one would they be married to eternally. Same question asked of Jesus even though they were trying to trap Him. He spoke truth the the question then went on to what was really in their heart.

 

[billwald]

Maybe there will be sexual activity without formal marriage.

 

[sthatting]

Maybe there will be sexual activity without formal marriage.

 

[heymikey80]

Maybe there will be sexual activity without formal marriage.

Interesting what Jesus said in addition.

 

[JDIBe]

Maybe there will be sexual activity without formal marriage.

Mat 22:29 But Jesus answered and said to them, "You are mistaken, not understanding the Scriptures nor the power of God.
30 For in the resurrection they......

1. neither marry nor
2. are given in marriage, but
3. are like angels in heaven."

It seems pretty plain to me.

When one says there will be sexual activity in Heaven, it kind of reminds me of the ending of the movie, "The Jerk". After Steve Martin returns home, he says in the voiceover that he built his parents a bigger house. The scene goes from a small ramshackled old shack to A LARGER ramshackled old shack! C.S. Lewis once wrote of a impoverished refugee who had nothing but a small amount of crusty, old, moldy bread to eat every day. "Heaven" to him might be all the crusty, old, moldy bread he could possibly eat. Why? Because he does not know that there is something better out there. He only knows what he has seen, and just imagines more of that.

Such it is, I think, in Heaven. I personally doubt there will be sex in Heaven. Besides the pleasure, the chief purpose to having male and female, is reproduction. This is obviously not needed in Heaven. I imagine there will be no male and female distinction between us, only souls. But I could be wrong I guess.

As for people wishing for marriage in Heaven, I can understand the feeling. They are afraid their relationship with their partner will somehow become less intimate as a result. I disagree. I feel our relationship with others will be just as intimate as it is with our spouses (and all, probably even more). One does not come at the expense of the other. Intimacy is not all about the sex, you know. eek: Hey...who said that?)

Picture your first child. When you had your 2nd (or 3rd) did you love him any less? Did you feel any less close to him?

My personal opinion, sex is like crusty, old, moldy bread. I believe there will be things that give us joy and intimacy in Heaven that will make you not long for it at all.

...but I could be wrong....

 

[sthatting]

Thank you all for answering my questions.

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