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<blockquote data-quote="lucaspa" data-source="post: 514154" data-attributes="member: 4882"><p>John, the difference is not in <strong>how</strong> you view deity, but <strong>whether</strong> you do. If you notice, <strong>all</strong> the examples you gave were people who are said to actually have <strong>observed</strong> Yeshu as a baby.&nbsp; They observed Yeshu the same way Seesaw observes his cat.&nbsp; </p><p></p><p>Now, have <strong>you</strong> observed Yeshu as a baby?&nbsp; No, of course not.&nbsp; Yeshu's birth happened about 1,970 years ago and you weren't born yet.&nbsp; What happens is that you <strong>trust</strong> the accounts that you read in the Bible.&nbsp; But what is the outside evidence that <strong>compels</strong> everyone to trust those accounts?</p><p></p><p>Science works <strong>only</strong> with observations that everyone can have under approximately the same circumstances. We may <strong>choose</strong> not to make those observations because of time, money, and not having the necessary training, but we <strong>could</strong>.&nbsp; There is no way I can possibly observe the baby Yeshu.&nbsp; You have made a choice to believe the accounts.&nbsp; Others have made a choice to either believe the accounts are wrong or to doubt them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lucaspa, post: 514154, member: 4882"] John, the difference is not in [B]how[/B] you view deity, but [B]whether[/B] you do. If you notice, [B]all[/B] the examples you gave were people who are said to actually have [B]observed[/B] Yeshu as a baby. They observed Yeshu the same way Seesaw observes his cat. Now, have [B]you[/B] observed Yeshu as a baby? No, of course not. Yeshu's birth happened about 1,970 years ago and you weren't born yet. What happens is that you [B]trust[/B] the accounts that you read in the Bible. But what is the outside evidence that [B]compels[/B] everyone to trust those accounts? Science works [B]only[/B] with observations that everyone can have under approximately the same circumstances. We may [B]choose[/B] not to make those observations because of time, money, and not having the necessary training, but we [B]could[/B]. There is no way I can possibly observe the baby Yeshu. You have made a choice to believe the accounts. Others have made a choice to either believe the accounts are wrong or to doubt them. [/QUOTE]
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