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If you want to comment or make suggestions on a poster's style, the PM is a much better venue to do so as it won't divert from the OP.I always thought commenting that a post was so long whatever point it was trying to make was lost might be construed as an invitation to make the point in a more concise manner.
If you're trying to make a point but the point is lost among a wall of words and videos I'd have thought you'd be interested to know that at least some people aren't seeing whatever point it is you want to make. As you said, anyone can Google things but frankly your opening post didn't inspire enough interest to make me want to find out more.
Whether you do anything with that or not is up to you. Calling me rude doesn't really help though, does it?
I always thought commenting that a post was so long whatever point it was trying to make was lost might be construed as an invitation to make the point in a more concise manner.
If you're trying to make a point but the point is lost among a wall of words and videos I'd have thought you'd be interested to know that at least some people aren't seeing whatever point it is you want to make. As you said, anyone can Google things but frankly your opening post didn't inspire enough interest to make me want to find out more.
Whether you do anything with that or not is up to you. Calling me rude doesn't really help though, does it?If you want to comment or make suggestions on a poster's style, the PM is a much better venue to do so as it won't divert from the OP.
So true...It was, essentially, a joke. But whatever happens, we can be sure the US y and large consider themselves the wronged party, and thats not a joke
You don't just write people off in a culture they took time to develop when you're harming their world.....and can do things to prevent that.Even though their culture has been in place around the arctic circle since CE 1000? Do a little research. You can begin here.
Preserving the Artic Circle is a big deal - for everyone - but the ways others dismiss that seems no different than others telling Native Americans you have to move off the land they cultivated - and then in moving them, say "Well it's your fault if you get harmed by our developing culture!!!"A traditional economy, an economy based on custom and tradition, may seem like something that is only read about in history books.... However, there are still places in the world where a traditional economy guides the choices of children, adults, and elders as they make decisions as producers or consumers. The Inuit of northern Canada serve as a prime example of a traditional economy. ...Unlike traditional economies, in a market economy individuals generate wealth by pursing those activities that others value and are willing to pay for. Income earned is then used to buy the clothes, food, and other items needed, wanted or desired. People in market economies are seldom dependent on others as are the Inuits. However they are interdependent because they need others to provide the goods and services they themselves do not produce because of high opportunity costs.
In light of how expensive food is in the North and how many Inuits cannot afford to eat, someone suggested that what should be proposed is a competitive tariff for all U.S. professional services exports. ..meaning that the payoff would reach each Inuit population for some time.It was, essentially, a joke. But whatever happens, we can be sure the US y and large consider themselves the wronged party, and thats not a joke
For myself, although my roots from my mother connect me with Afro-Hispanic and West Indian culture, my grandmother from my biological father's side was strong BlackFoot Indian. If you saw pictures of her (from the red skin to the high cheek bones), you'd see instantly. It's something I've often had a lot of battles with in explaining to others since they'd look at me and never think I had that in my blood and loved that culture...or that it's possible to have mixture from mutliple cultures into one person/group - just like it was for the Black Seminoles. Truthfully, it is amazing to see how many blacks have often had a lot of sharp battles with Indigenious groups when it comes to identity, as many have said blacks weren't "Indian" enough while other Indigenious groups who accepted blacks that were mixed were deemed as harming the tribe/limiting authenticity. First Nations Groups/Native Americans have the concept of others being adopted into tribes/being considered to be fully amongst the people...although even this is something that does not always play out without flaw since many in differing tribes often had issue with others due to their ancestry from others outside the tribe...whereas others had no issue acknowledging where one could be BlackFoot and yet have other blood in them.I'm glad you enjoyed the video.
I don't know how you identify with the Blackfeet. Do you go to pow-wows?
Knew of Richard Twiss - as he was one of my inspirations...and although I still mourn his passing, I am so grateful for what the Lord used him to to. Talked on him before elsewhere on multiple occassions - including on many of his books/videos he shared (as seen here, here and here ).I knew a good brother in Christ, Richard Twiss, who was native Sioux and had taken part in the AIM occupation of the BIA in 1972. After giving his life to Christ, he led a group called Wiconi International, taking part in cultural events as far away as Tibet. He went to be with the Lord earlier this year.
Cool to know...I never have been able to ascertain what tribe I come from. I know I am 7% Native American, and I know my NA ancestry, from several lines, all came through Oneida County, NY. Some of it may have been Mohawk or Abnaki from VT; some may have been Brothertown from SE NY; some may have been Brothertown, Stockbridge or Oneida. It is all on female lines; but cross-line (F-F-M-F, etc.), so that even if I could trace the exact line, I could not enroll in those matriarchal tribes. I don't worship the Indian spirits, can't hunt or fish worth a hoot, and am a terrible runner; so I'm thoroughly a white guy. My daughter married a Chinaman, though; and when I see my Eurasian grandchildren, I imagine what it was like for some of my ancestors.
Although others have lost their cultures, I don't think it's the case for all that it is like that with all...and I don't think the Eskimos HAVE to lose their culture. Even others who are Aboriginal or Tasmanian have kept their cultures alive - as have others.The Eskimo will certainly lose their culture eventually, one way or another. If you look at things objectively, even we whites have lost our culture. We do not live as our ancestors did; and judging by the comments on CF, not many even remember their religious and cultural heritage. If my New England ancestors, such as Elder William Brewster, were to see what has become of this country, they would be glad they're in the grave and don't have to witness it. Also, my ancestors were among the first settlers of Albany, Kingston, Manhattan and Brooklyn, NY. Do they collect any rents? No. Is their Dutch language spoken anywhere? No. They're forgotten, and have been replaced by Blacks, Puerto Ricans, Italians, Irishmen and Jews.
I hope the video survives, though. It's one of my favorites.
Sounds entirely plausible.To break the Innuit stranglehold on strategic ice reserves, obviously...
It'd be to our detriment to speed up the process of melting the Artic environment - as that'd lead to all manner of ecological disasters ...from flooding to destruction of land and other things. The benefits of enjoying oil would be short-lived....Has it been mentioned that it is believed that there are massive oil reserves in the Arctic, in addition to iron ore, zinc, nickel, gold, uranium, and other minerals?
Oil: Only part of the Arctic's massive resources
And as the earth continues to warm it makes exploiting those resources that much easier.
Very keen analysis and thank you for bringing that up - as it concerns the ways the U.S often says it's "Involved" to deal with a situation and yet it is simply distraction from the ways damage keeps getting done intentionally.Sounds entirely plausible.
Just like the sanctions the U.S. and her allies put on Iraq during Hussein's reign. Sanctions that decimated the population and helped in the spread of HIV/AIDS due to hypodermic needles having to be reused in hospital.
Meanwhile, once America invaded and occupied while those sanctions were in place they noticed they'd done so in the midst of Saddam being in the process of constructing his seventh palace. Sanctions certainly crippled him! *cough*
Future climate change threatens to further compromise Inuit right to culture by affecting the migration timing, population health, quality of meat and furs, and availability of wildlife species important in subsistence-based hunting (Moore and Huntington, 2008).
Mitigation is central to efforts to tackle climate change and lower emission futures will give Inuit and the ecosystems on which they depend more time to adapt. Indeed, dangerous climate change may already be occurring in Canadas Arctic regions, or will happen soon, thereby compelling Parties to the FCCC to act immediately through mitigation to avoid dangerous anthropogenic interference with the climate system, (Article 2) (Ford, 2009a). Mitigation is particularly important for the Arctic because unabated or runaway climate change could have
potentially irreversible negative impacts (IPCC, 2007b). However, we argue that adaptation should become a central feature of climate change policy development for Canadas Inuit region, and a priority for Inuit political negotiations both domestically and internationally. Adaptation is needed to uphold domestic Inuit rights and to prevent internationally recognised human rights
being compromised (Ford, 2009a).
Even though there is a lot of devestation going on, there is the reality of how many get through it due to their eschatological views - for others holding a mindset of end-times that says things will continue to get worse are not surprised .....and for others, the mindset that says persecution/harm will come (even though they must rejoice) is what is present. Some have a mindset that folks should get involved knowing that God has called us to have proper stewardship of the planet - and that it's not somethign where the Lord will intervene outside of His people crying out/doing something on it (in the same way that prayer didn't change the Dust Bowel incident in the 1930s when the Great Plains were abused with continual farming/not allowing for rest and dust storms of epic proportions arose to harm many in the U.S).What's disconcerting is that for all the Inuit that are Christian their prayers aren't being answered. Or maybe it just appears that way
I think a lot of people seem to pacify themselves on the situation by saying "Well, at least they'll get paid for the oil reserves" - but the issue is that there's no payment that can be enough to replace a healthy way of life and environmental responsibility. The same logic of $$$$$ and payment being the solution has never worked - as that's what harmed the Native Americans when their culture was destroyed due to relocation and destruction of the land....and the settlers thought it was enough to make a contract.Has it been mentioned that it is believed that there are massive oil reserves in the Arctic, in addition to iron ore, zinc, nickel, gold, uranium, and other minerals?
Oil: Only part of the Arctic's massive resources
And as the earth continues to warm it makes exploiting those resources that much easier.
Is there the potential for oil spills to occur further?Has it been mentioned that it is believed that there are massive oil reserves in the Arctic, in addition to iron ore, zinc, nickel, gold, uranium, and other minerals?
Oil: Only part of the Arctic's massive resources
And as the earth continues to warm it makes exploiting those resources that much easier.
Gxg (G²);62875179 said:Is there the potential for oil spills to occur further?
Read an interesting article on the issue from the last issue in March of "Popular Science" magazine on the ways that they were hoping to avoid oil spills by attempting to devlop a new kind of pump...the first of its kind..that would operate on the Ocean Floor.Of course there is, the recent grounding of the oil rig shows that. But that's not the point. The point is that corporations from the south will have an easier time exploiting those resources with the Inuit out of the way.
Drilling in the Arctic is a matter of when and not if. With summer sea ice having declined 30 percent since 1979 and continuing to shrink, companies are racing to prospect above 60° North. The Arctic contains an estimated 90 billion barrels of recoverable oil and 1,670 trillion cubic feet of natural gasnearly a quarter of the worlds undiscovered supply. Royal Dutch Shell has already spent $4.5 billion drilling off the coast of northern Alaska. ConocoPhillips wants to sink a well in the Chukchi Sea by next year. And Exxon announced a partnership with a Russian company to drill in the waters north of Siberia in 2015.......In the past several years, both Statoil and Shell Oil have begun testing subsea gas compressorsa crucial piece of a factoryin water-filled pits that simulate the ocean.
What examples did you have in mind as it concerns living in harmony/stability with natural surroundings?There are few things more important in life than for people to live in harmony and stability in their natural surroundings.
Something that the onward march of civilization seems to destroy wherever it goes.
The work of Marie-Pierre Lardeau seems to stand out in regards to finding ways of combining what happens in the modern era with traditional lifestyles and trying to merge them so that the Inuit are aided. For reference:Of course there is, the recent grounding of the oil rig shows that. But that's not the point. The point is that corporations from the south will have an easier time exploiting those resources with the Inuit out of the way.
There are few things more important in life than for people to live in harmony and stability in their natural surroundings.
While it is not possible to cultivate plants for food in the Arctic, the Inuit have traditionally gathered those that are naturally available. Grasses, tubers, roots, stems, berries, fireweed and seaweed were collected and preserved depending on the season and the location. According to Edmund Searles in his article Food and the Making of Modern Inuit Identities, they consume this type of diet because a mostly meat diet is effective in keeping the body warm, making the body strong, keeping the body fit, and even making that body healthy
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