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I think most Anglicans don't depend upon the Pope to determine if our orders are valid.
Anyway , I end where I began. I have utter contempt for Henry 8.
But not for anglicans.
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We focus too much on division, not on what we share.
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The Episcopal Church (TEC) in the United States is the US branch of the Anglican communion. At one time they were known as the "Protestant Episcopal Church" they have dropped Protestant from there name. When I was looking for a church I seriously considered TEC, but it was just to liberal for me, I chose the Lutheran Church Missouri Synod instead.
The Book of Common Prayer is amazing, it contains the most beautiful liturgies ever written. However, they lost there minds and now like all the mainline denominations in the US preach social activism above all else, examples are: social justice, illegal immigrant rights, environmental justice, LGBT rights, refugee rights, woman's rights, and the list goes on.
While some of these are important, they should be secondary to preaching the gospel, and administering the sacraments.
Additionally, they have supported the ordination of homosexuals who are shaking up, as well as ordination of women. some of the leadership in the past has denied the virgin birth, and bodily resurection of Christ, gay marriage is fine, men wearing women's clothes and squatting on the toilet next to six year old girls in public restrooms is ok as well.
TEC has lost over 25% of it's members because of these issues, they even had to sell there national headquarters a few years back, and we're under sanction from the Anglican Communion for what really amounts to heresy...of course they used a different name.
I saw a video about "why I love The Episcopal Church" it never once mentioned Jesus Christ, or, the need for salvation, it was just all social activism...no gospel.
The other mainline denominations are just as bad, preaching anything and everything other than salvation by God's grace through faith.
For many years, the Episcopal Church's official name was the Protestant Episcopal Church. That would seem to answer the question.
Yes, Albion, I am sure that you are right. The Protestant label was used to distinguish themselves from the Roman Catholics. I had already guessed as much. Still, the use of the term would seem to mean something.
I am not after a punch up on this: but go and read the oath itself.
The king clearly sets himself as supreme over all matters spiritual and ecclesiastical: in short making himself the arbiter of truth in matters of doctrine. Yet Henry 8 was never ordained and certainly not in succession, so how can he claim to know or to be arbiter of truth? I can find references in the bible to defend the popes and apostolic succession claim to that power "the power to bind and loose" given to apostolic successors jointly, but also Peter alone.
i think the bible anglicans use contain the apocrypha books
i think this is to play a dangerous game,because the line is too thinWe do generally read the deuterocanon. However, from our Articles of Religion: "the other Books (as Hierome saith) the Church doth read for example of life and instruction of manners; but yet doth it not apply them to establish any doctrine."
We speak of "via media," or the middle way between Catholicism and Protestantism. In many places such as my parish, the church looks quite Catholic save for submitting to leadership by the papacy. In other places you will find Anglicans appearing much more Protestant in practice. Catholic visitors to my church often remark, "You guys are more Catholic than we are." Of course, they're talking about worship form and practice, not theological roots or allegiance to the Pope. Admittedly, it's confusing.
i think this is to play a dangerous game,because the line is too thin
1. there is a lineWhat do you mean?
Why Were the Books of the Old Testament Apocrypha Rejected as Holy Scripture by the Protestants?And you are suggesting that the deuterocanonical books promote "heresy and idolatry"?
i think different from you, i believe those book will confuse the believer, it will harm the believer and there is nobody, in the anglican doctrine, who could help the believer. this is what i believe, i don't mean to impose by force into anyone.Hmm. As someone who does read them, I think they are no more problematic than other parts of Scripture, which can also be misused, misunderstood, and so on.
there is nobody, in the anglican doctrine, who could help the believer.
do you use images of jesus crucified in your cathedrals?What do you mean by this?
It looks as if you're saying Anglicans don't have a sound theology or pastoral praxis.
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