Ephesus Rev 2:1-3 Part 1

[Dead Eye]

1st Denominational Church in Ephesus​

Actions of Jesus in Ephesus Denominationalism

Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write, these things say he that holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks amid the seven golden candlesticks.

Rev 2:1 Unto the (1st) angel of the (1st) church of Ephesus (1st denominational division of the general assembly upon earth Acts 17:28-31) write; These things (itemized details) says *he (Jesus) that holds (authority) the seven stars (church angels) in his right hand (authoritative power), who walks (expressed freedom) in the midst of the seven (divisions) golden candlesticks (general assembly of 7 denominational churches upon earth Rev 3:5,6);

*The Mystery of God: (Gen 1:1 Isa 7:14, 9:6 Isa 45:7 Isa 65:17 Eph 3:9 Col 1:15-20 Heb 1:1-3Rev 10:6,7)

(Dan 5:5-candlestick&finger 5:23-idol&finger {candlestick Rev 1:12 1:13 1:20 Rev 2:1 Rev 2:5} [Rev 11:4 Zech 4:11-14-2 witnesses])

(Dan 5:24-29 Rev 6:1-8-4 horses {Dan 5:27 Rev 6:5-scale-}) (Dan 5:19-22-Pride-Prv 16:18 {Dan 5:23-idol-Dan 5:1-4 drunk} [Dan 5:24-28 finger] {Dan 5:29-gifts})

Beginning of Denominationalism set up by Judas Gen 25:29-34 sold birth right-first fruit Zec 11:12,13 Matt 26:14-16 Mark 14:15, 44 Luke 22:5 Acts 3:14,15 Matt 18:18 Luke 22:5,6 Luke 22:47,48 unholy kiss John 12:6-money bag Luke 22:5,6 Rev 1:18 3:20 Isa 28:15-18-SCOURGE {Jer 6:30 Luke 18:33 2Tim 3:7-9 Titus 1:16 Rev 2&3}).

• The Seven Stars=Seven Church Angel
• (Seven Church Angels Rev 2:1,8,12,18 Rev 3:1,7,14)
• Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
• Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which you saw are the seven churches.

Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things says he that hold the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

Beginning Establishing Denominational Churches Acts 18:7 home church joining to denominationalism

Act 1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. Act 1:23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. Act 1:24 And they prayed, and said, you, Lord, which know the hearts of all men, show whether of these two thou hast chose, Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. Act 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. Acts 19:37 robbers of churches

Rev 2:1 The Right Hand of God

Rev 13:16 And he causes all, both small and great, rich, and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Rev 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and [his] left [foot] on the earth,

Jesus Knows the Actions of Ephesus Moral Denominationalists

Rev 2:2 I know your works, and your labor, and your patience, and how you cannot bear them which are evil: and you have tried them which say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars:

Rev 2:2 I (Jesus) know your (moral denominationalist) works (efforts), and your

labor (struggle Gen 3:22), and your patience, and how you (moral denominationalist) cannot bear them (Denominationalists immoral denominationalist) *which are evil: and you have tried them (denominational leadership) which say they are apostles (denominational church leadership), and are not (Rev 2:9), and have found them liars (John 8:44 2Cor 11:13-15):

Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Rev 2:9 I know your works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but you are rich) and *I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, *and which have not known the depths (possession of men) of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

• Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have *committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
• Rev 18:13 And cinnamon, and odors, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, *and souls of (possessed) men.

Rev 16:13 And *I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Rev 13:15 possession of image

The Evil Denominationalist

Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, we adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preached. Act 19:14 (1) And there were seven sons of one Sceva, (2) a Jew, and (3) chief of the priests, which did so. Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. Act 19:17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. Act 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. Act 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. Act 19:20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.

The Evil Denominationalist

• John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
• 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Jesus Knows the Actions of Ephesus Moral Denominationalists

Rev 2:3 And have borne, and have patience, and for my name's sake have labored, and have not fainted.

Rev 2:3 (moral denominationalist) And have borne (carried), and have patience, and for my (Jesus) name's sake (reputation Psa 40:7 Heb 10:7 the first and the last (title of Jesus) have labored (struggled Gen 3:22), and have not fainted (Rev 5:8-10 grown weak Gal 6:9).

Scourge Saints: Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

1st Group of Tribulation Saints: Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

God doing for man: Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:

Names Sake

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that endures to the end shall be saved.

Luk 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

Psa 40:7 Then said I, lo, I come: in the volume of the book, was wrote of me,

Heb 10:7 Then said I, lo, I come (in the volume of the book it was wrote of me,) to do your will, O God. Psa 40:7 Then said I, lo, I come: in the volume of the book was wrote of me,

Psa 23:3 He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Psa 31:3 For you [are] the rock and of my fortress; and your name's sake leads me and guides me.

Isa 48:9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for you, that I cut you not off.

1Jo 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

 

[David Lamb]

1st Denominational Church in Ephesus​

Actions of Jesus in Ephesus Denominationalism

Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write, these things say he that holds the seven stars in his right hand, who walks amid the seven golden candlesticks.

Rev 2:1 Unto the (1st) angel of the (1st) church of Ephesus (1st denominational division of the general assembly upon earth Acts 17:28-31) write; These things (itemized details) says *he (Jesus) that holds (authority) the seven stars (church angels) in his right hand (authoritative power), who walks (expressed freedom) in the midst of the seven (divisions) golden candlesticks (general assembly of 7 denominational churches upon earth Rev 3:5,6);

*The Mystery of God: (Gen 1:1 Isa 7:14, 9:6 Isa 45:7 Isa 65:17 Eph 3:9 Col 1:15-20 Heb 1:1-3Rev 10:6,7)

(Dan 5:5-candlestick&finger 5:23-idol&finger {candlestick Rev 1:12 1:13 1:20 Rev 2:1 Rev 2:5} [Rev 11:4 Zech 4:11-14-2 witnesses])

(Dan 5:24-29 Rev 6:1-8-4 horses {Dan 5:27 Rev 6:5-scale-}) (Dan 5:19-22-Pride-Prv 16:18 {Dan 5:23-idol-Dan 5:1-4 drunk} [Dan 5:24-28 finger] {Dan 5:29-gifts})

Beginning of Denominationalism set up by Judas Gen 25:29-34 sold birth right-first fruit Zec 11:12,13 Matt 26:14-16 Mark 14:15, 44 Luke 22:5 Acts 3:14,15 Matt 18:18 Luke 22:5,6 Luke 22:47,48 unholy kiss John 12:6-money bag Luke 22:5,6 Rev 1:18 3:20 Isa 28:15-18-SCOURGE {Jer 6:30 Luke 18:33 2Tim 3:7-9 Titus 1:16 Rev 2&3}).

• The Seven Stars=Seven Church Angel
• (Seven Church Angels Rev 2:1,8,12,18 Rev 3:1,7,14)
• Rev 1:16 And he had in his right hand seven stars: and out of his mouth went a sharp two-edged sword: and his countenance was as the sun shineth in his strength.
• Rev 1:20 The mystery of the seven stars which you saw in my right hand, and the seven golden candlesticks. The seven stars are the angels of the seven churches: and the seven candlesticks which you saw are the seven churches.

Rev 2:1 Unto the angel of the church of Ephesus write; These things says he that hold the seven stars in his right hand, who walks in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;

Beginning Establishing Denominational Churches Acts 18:7 home church joining to denominationalism

Act 1:21 Wherefore of these men which have companied with us all the time that the Lord Jesus went in and out among us, Act 1:22 Beginning from the baptism of John, unto that same day that he was taken up from us, must one be ordained to be a witness with us of his resurrection. Act 1:23 And they appointed two, Joseph called Barsabas, who was surnamed Justus, and Matthias. Act 1:24 And they prayed, and said, you, Lord, which know the hearts of all men, show whether of these two thou hast chose, Act 1:25 That he may take part of this ministry and apostleship, from which Judas by transgression fell, that he might go to his own place. Act 1:26 And they gave forth their lots; and the lot fell upon Matthias; and he was numbered with the eleven apostles. Acts 19:37 robbers of churches

Rev 2:1 The Right Hand of God

Rev 13:16 And he causes all, both small and great, rich, and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

Rev 1:17 And when I saw him, I fell at his feet as dead. And he laid his right hand upon me, saying unto me, Fear not; I am the first and the last:

Rev 5:1 And I saw in the right hand of him that sat on the throne a book written within and on the backside, sealed with seven seals.

Rev 5:7 And he came and took the book out of the right hand of him that sat upon the throne.

Rev 10:2 And he had in his hand a little book open: and he set his right foot upon the sea, and [his] left [foot] on the earth,

Jesus Knows the Actions of Ephesus Moral Denominationalists

Rev 2:2 I know your works, and your labor, and your patience, and how you cannot bear them which are evil: and you have tried them which say they are apostles and are not, and have found them liars:

Rev 2:2 I (Jesus) know your (moral denominationalist) works (efforts), and your

labor (struggle Gen 3:22), and your patience, and how you (moral denominationalist) cannot bear them (Denominationalists immoral denominationalist) *which are evil: and you have tried them (denominational leadership) which say they are apostles (denominational church leadership), and are not (Rev 2:9), and have found them liars (John 8:44 2Cor 11:13-15):

Joh 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Rev 2:9 I know your works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but you are rich) and *I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.

Rev 2:24 But unto you I say, and unto the rest in Thyatira, as many as have not this doctrine, *and which have not known the depths (possession of men) of Satan, as they speak; I will put upon you none other burden.

• Rev 18:3 For all nations have drunk of the wine of the wrath of her fornication, and the kings of the earth have *committed fornication with her, and the merchants of the earth are waxed rich through the abundance of her delicacies.
• Rev 18:13 And cinnamon, and odors, and ointments, and frankincense, and wine, and oil, and fine flour, and wheat, and beasts, and sheep, and horses, and chariots, and slaves, *and souls of (possessed) men.

Rev 16:13 And *I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet. Rev 16:14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty. Rev 13:15 possession of image

The Evil Denominationalist

Act 19:13 Then certain of the vagabond Jews, exorcists, took upon them to call over them which had evil spirits the name of the Lord Jesus, saying, we adjure you by Jesus whom Paul preached. Act 19:14 (1) And there were seven sons of one Sceva, (2) a Jew, and (3) chief of the priests, which did so. Act 19:15 And the evil spirit answered and said, Jesus I know, and Paul I know; but who are ye? Act 19:16 And the man in whom the evil spirit was leaped on them, and overcame them, and prevailed against them, so that they fled out of that house naked and wounded. Act 19:17 And this was known to all the Jews and Greeks also dwelling at Ephesus; and fear fell on them all, and the name of the Lord Jesus was magnified. Act 19:18 And many that believed came, and confessed, and shewed their deeds. Act 19:19 Many of them also which used curious arts brought their books together, and burned them before all men: and they counted the price of them, and found it fifty thousand pieces of silver. Act 19:20 So mightily grew the word of God and prevailed.

The Evil Denominationalist

• John 8:44 You are of your father the devil, and the lusts of your father you will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a lie, he speaks of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.
• 2Co 11:13 For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ. 2Co 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. 2Co 11:15 Therefore it is no great thing if his ministers also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works.

1Ti 4:1 Now the Spirit speaks expressly, that in the latter times some shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and doctrines of devils; 1Ti 4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a hot iron;

1Jn 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world. 1Jn 4:2 Hereby know ye the Spirit of God: Every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is of God: 1Jn 4:3 And every spirit that confesses not that Jesus Christ is come in the flesh is not of God: and this is that spirit of antichrist, whereof ye have heard that it should come; and even now already is it in the world.

Jesus Knows the Actions of Ephesus Moral Denominationalists

Rev 2:3 And have borne, and have patience, and for my name's sake have labored, and have not fainted.

Rev 2:3 (moral denominationalist) And have borne (carried), and have patience, and for my (Jesus) name's sake (reputation Psa 40:7 Heb 10:7 the first and the last (title of Jesus) have labored (struggled Gen 3:22), and have not fainted (Rev 5:8-10 grown weak Gal 6:9).

Scourge Saints: Rev 6:11 And white robes were given unto every one of them; and it was said unto them, that they should rest yet for a little season, until their fellow-servants also and their brethren, that should be killed as they were, should be fulfilled.

1st Group of Tribulation Saints: Rev 7:9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands;

God doing for man: Gen 3:22 And the LORD God said, Behold, the man has become as one of us, to know good and evil: and now, lest he put forth his hand, and take also of the tree of life, and eat, and live forever:

Names Sake

Mat 10:22 And ye shall be hated of all [men] for my name's sake: but he that endures to the end shall be saved.

Luk 21:12 But before all these, they shall lay their hands on you, and persecute you, delivering you up to the synagogues, and into prisons, being brought before kings and rulers for my name's sake.

Psa 40:7 Then said I, lo, I come: in the volume of the book, was wrote of me,

Heb 10:7 Then said I, lo, I come (in the volume of the book it was wrote of me,) to do your will, O God. Psa 40:7 Then said I, lo, I come: in the volume of the book was wrote of me,

Psa 23:3 He restores my soul: he leads me in the paths of righteousness for his name's sake.

Psa 31:3 For you [are] the rock and of my fortress; and your name's sake leads me and guides me.

Isa 48:9 For my name's sake will I defer mine anger, and for my praise will I refrain for you, that I cut you not off.

1Jo 2:12 I write unto you, little children, because your sins are forgiven you for his name's sake.

But in that quite long post, I fail to see anything that suggests the church at Ephesus was a "denominational church". Nor do I see anything in the bible to say that Judas Iscariot started even one church, let alone all denominational churches. It seems a sweeping generalisation to say that every denomination that exists is following Judas in denying Jesus. There may well be some denominations that do, and I am sure there are some non-denominational churches that do, but there are denominations who firmly base their beliefs and practices on the bible.

 

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But in that quite long post, I fail to see anything that suggests the church at Ephesus was a "denominational church". Nor do I see anything in the bible to say that Judas Iscariot started even one church, let alone all denominational churches. It seems a sweeping generalisation to say that every denomination that exists is following Judas in denying Jesus. There may well be some denominations that do, and I am sure there are some non-denominational churches that do, but there are denominations who firmly base their beliefs and practices on the bible.

Revelation 2:1 KJV — Unto the angel of the *church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 3:8 KJV — I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Denominations haven't denied his name. They don't accept his finished work on the Cross to free you from the religious system that killed him. They are following man.

John 18:36 KJV — Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world: if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

The entire denominational earth Church system is a lie. Beginning of Non/Denominationalism set up by Judas Gen 25:29-34 sold birth right-first fruit Zec 11:12,13 Matt 26:14-16 Mark 14:15-18, 44 Acts 3:14,15 Matt 18:18 Luke 22:5,6 Luke 22:47,48 unholy kiss John 12:6-money bag Luke 22:5,6 Rev 1:18 3:20 Isa 28:15-18-SCOURGE {Jer 6:30 Luke 18:33 2Tim 3:7-9 Titus 1:16 Rev 2&3}).

Malachi 3:8-9 KJV — Will a man rob God? Yet ye have robbed me. But ye say, Wherein have we robbed thee? In tithes and offerings. Ye are cursed with a curse(judas covenant): for ye have robbed me(betrayed), even this whole nation.
*Satan was in Judas at the time of the covenant

Matthew 16:19 KJV — And I(Jesus) will give unto thee(disciples) the keys of the kingdom of heaven: and whatsoever thou(disciples) shalt **bind on earth shall be **bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou(disciples) shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

Matthew 18:18 KJV — Verily I(Jesus) say unto you(disciples), Whatsoever ye(disciples) shall **bind on earth shall be **bound in heaven: and whatsoever ye(disciples) shall loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven.

*covenant meaning **binding or establishing an relationship between two parties(testament)
*Satan was in Judas at the time of the covenant

This sets up denominations from the Cross until current day

Luke 22:5 KJV — And they were glad, and **covenanted to give him money.
Matthew 26:14,15 KJV — Then one of the twelve, called Judas Iscariot, went unto the chief priests,And said unto them, What will ye give me(Judas/disciple/apostle), and I will deliver him unto you? And they *covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Matthew 27:5 KJV — And he cast down the pieces of silver in the temple, and departed, and went and ***hanged himself.

Hebrews 9:16-17 KJV — For where a testament is, there must also of necessity be the ***death of the testator. For a testament is of force after men are dead: otherwise it is of no strength at all while the testator liveth.

You are either under the Blood covenant of Christ or the Blood Covenant of Judas.(denominationalism)
*Matthew 26:28 KJV — For this is my blood of the new testament, which is shed for many for the remission of sins.
*Matthew 26:15 KJV — And said unto them, What will ye give me, and I will deliver him unto you? And they covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Revelation 3:1 KJV — And unto the angel of the church in Sardis write; These things saith he that hath the seven Spirits of God, and the seven stars; I know thy works, that thou hast a name that thou livest, and art ***dead.

Proverbs 21:16 KJV — The man that wandereth out of the way of understanding shall remain in the congregation(Rev.2,3 Denominationalism) of the ***dead.

2 Corinthians 1:10 KJV — Who delivered us from so great a *death(matt 26:15 Isa 28:15), and doth deliver: in whom we trust that he will yet deliver us;

Isaiah 28:15 KJV — Because ye(denominationalism) have said, We have made a *COVENANT with ***death, and with hell are we at **agreement(Lk 22:5 covenant/agreement Greek strongs 4934); when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we hid ourselves:

Luke 22:5 KJV — And they were glad, and **covenanted(**agreement Greek strongs 4934)to give him money.

1 Corinthians 15:29 KJV — Else what shall they do which are baptized for the ***dead, if the ***dead rise not at all? why are they then baptized for the ***dead?

Revelation 6:8 KJV — And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was ***Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.

2 Corinthians 6:16-17 KJV — And what **agreement(Isa 28:15-18) hath the temple of God with idols(denomination)? for ye are the temple of the living God; as God hath said, I will dwell in them, and walk in them; and I will be their God, and they shall be my people. Wherefore come out from among THEM, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you,

John 2:21 KJV — But he spake of the temple of his **body.

1 Corinthians 6:19 KJV — What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?

Mark 14:58 KJV — We heard him say, I will destroy this temple that is made with hands, and within three days I will build another made without hands.

2 Peter 2:19 KJV — While they(denominations) $promise$ them liberty, they themselves are the servants of corruption: for of whom a man is overcome, of the same is he brought in bondage.

Luke 22:6 KJV — And he(Judas) $promised$, and sought opportunity to betray him unto them in the absence of the multitude.

Matthew 26:15 KJV — And said unto them, What will ye give me(Judas/disciple/apostle), and I will deliver him unto you? And they *covenanted with him for thirty pieces of silver.

Proverbs 9:16-18 KJV — Whoso is simple, let him turn in hither: and as for him that wanteth understanding, she saith to him, Stolen waters are sweet, and bread eaten in secret is pleasant. But he knoweth not that the ***dead are there; and that her guests(HEB st. 7121, Preach, call self) are in the depths of hell.

Luke 11:44 KJV — Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye are as ***graves which appear not##, and the men that walk over them are not aware of them.

##the word "hell" comes from the Indo-European root *kel-, which means "to #cover" or "to conceal". The word "hell" is therefore originally defined as a "##concealed place".
Isaiah 59:6 KJV — Their webs shall not become garments, neither shall they cover themselves with their works: their works are works of iniquity, and the act of violence is in their hands.

Isaiah 28:15 KJV — Because ye(denominationalism) have said, We have made a *COVENANT with ***death, and with hell are we at **agreement(Lk 22:5 covenant/agreement Greek strongs 4934); when the overflowing scourge shall pass through, it shall not come unto us: for we have made lies our refuge, and under falsehood have we ##hid ourselves

Isaiah 30:1 KJV — Woe to the rebellious children, saith the LORD, that take counsel, but not of me; and that #cover with a #covering, but not of my spirit, that they may add sin to sin

**Tit 1:12-14 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are always liars, evil beasts, slow bellies. Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke them sharply, that they may be sound in the faith; Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables, and commandments of men, that turn from the truth.
Tit 1:12-14 One (even a prophet) of themselves (religious membership), even a prophet (poets Acts 17:28 {2Cor 11:13-15 2Pet 2:1 1John 4:1 false prophets}) of their (religious membership) own (Judas Acts 1:25), said, the Cretians are always liars, evil beasts (wicked hypocrite), slow bellies (lazy). Tit 1:13 This witness is true. Wherefore rebuke (disapprove) them (religious members) sharply, that they may be sound (2Pet 2:19 Heb 5:12-6:1-6 Rev 2:13) in the faith (Rom 10:9,10 Eph 2:8-10); Tit 1:14 Not giving heed to Jewish fables (Col 2:20-23 1Tim 1:4), and commandments of men (Mark 7:7,8 Col 2:22 2Pet 2:2), that turn (Rev 1:12) from the truth (John 14:6).


**Explains Titus 1:12-14 This self-called, appointed, or elected individual has been accepted by the denominational members and is appointed by the administration who gives the title, “prophet” or what Paul calls “a poet.” This individual known as a poet openly declares “the entire membership within a different denominational branch are liars, wicked hypocrites, and lazy”. Paul says “this is a true statement” nevertheless while this false prophet declares this simple truth, he himself is a liar, a wicked hypocrite, and lazy. Saints, boldly disapprove of religious denominational doctrines and attempt to get denominationalists to accept the Christian Doctrines and the Gospel of Christ, so fulfilling their faith.

Revelation 2:13 KJV — I know thy works, and where thou dwellest, even where Satan's seat is: and thou holdest fast my name, and hast not denied my faith, even in those days wherein Antipas was my faithful martyr, who was slain among you, where Satan dwelleth.

Money Changers-FILTHY LUCRE-GREEDY GAIN Their Table-Seat-greedy dogs-Isa 56:11 thieves parallels a banking system. Money changers=Financial Institutions Isa 30:10 using their tables regulating taxes and politicians. Their seat - Positions Col 1:16 John 8:44 Rom 1:28, Titles, Principalities, Doctrines, Thrones, Dominions. Mat 6:5 And when you pray, you shall not be as the hypocrites are: for they love to pray standing in the synagogues and in the corners of the streets, that they may be seen of men. Verily I say unto you, they have their reward.
Mat 21:12 And Jesus went into the temple of God, and cast out all them that sold and bought in the temple, and overthrew the tables of the moneychangers, and the seats of them that sold doves, Mat 21:13 And said unto them, It is written, My house shall be called the house of prayer; but you have made it a den of thieves. Judas Covenant-(DENOMINATIONALISM CONTINUES)
Joh 2:13-16 And the Jews' passover was at hand, and Jesus went up to Jerusalem, Joh 2:14 And found in the temple those that sold oxen and sheep and doves, and the changers of money “sitting”: Joh 2:15 And when he (Jesus) had made a scourge(isa28:15-18) of small cords, he drove them all out of the temple, and the sheep, and the oxen; and poured out the changers' money, and overthrew the tables; Joh 2:16 And said unto them that sold doves, Take these things hence; make not my Father's house an house of merchandise.

 

[David Lamb]

Revelation 2:1 KJV — Unto the angel of the *church of Ephesus write; These things saith he that holdeth the seven stars in his right hand, who walketh in the midst of the seven golden candlesticks;
Revelation 3:8 KJV — I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Denominations haven't denied his name. They don't accept his finished work on the Cross to free you from the religious system that killed him. They are following man.

I am restricting myself to the part of your message that I have quoted above.

You say that denominations don't accept the finished work on the cross. I am sure there are some denominations that don't accept Christ's finished work, but there are plenty of denominations which fully accept Christ's finished work at Calvary. There are churches in denominations that base their Statements of Faith on the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, which states, concerning Christ's office as Mediator:

"This office the Lord Jesus did most willingly undertake, which that He might discharge He was made under the law, and did perfectly fulfill it, and underwent the punishment due to us, which we should have born and suffered, being made sin and a curse for us; enduring most grievous sorrows in His soul, and most painful sufferings in His body; was crucified, and died, and remained in the state of the dead, yet saw no corruption: on the third day He arose from the dead with the same body in which He suffered, with which He also ascended into heaven, and there sits at the right hand of His Father making intercession,30 and shall return to judge men and angels at the end of the world."

It is too much of a generalization to say that all denominations don't accept the finished work of Christ.

 

[Legion7777777]

I am restricting myself to the part of your message that I have quoted above.

You say that denominations don't accept the finished work on the cross. I am sure there are some denominations that don't accept Christ's finished work, but there are plenty of denominations which fully accept Christ's finished work at Calvary. There are churches in denominations that base their Statements of Faith on the 1689 London Baptist Confession of Faith, which states, concerning Christ's office as Mediator:

"This office the Lord Jesus did most willingly undertake, which that He might discharge He was made under the law, and did perfectly fulfill it, and underwent the punishment due to us, which we should have born and suffered, being made sin and a curse for us; enduring most grievous sorrows in His soul, and most painful sufferings in His body; was crucified, and died, and remained in the state of the dead, yet saw no corruption: on the third day He arose from the dead with the same body in which He suffered, with which He also ascended into heaven, and there sits at the right hand of His Father making intercession,30 and shall return to judge men and angels at the end of the world."

It is too much of a generalization to say that all denominations don't accept the finished work of Christ.

Don't restrict yourself to any part of any of my statements. You're fighting for denominationalism. I'm fighting for Christ.

Their "Statement of Faith" is nothing more than a tactic to get you into their denomination. They are all the same, Set up by man for man. Its not what they say, its what they do. When words don't line up with action, that's manipulation. They keep you under the law, thus keeping you blind to the Truth in Christ. They cant tell you the Truth about Christ because it would close their doors and free you.

That "statement of Faith" is the snare that gets you to buy into the lie. That's the tip of the iceberg. The entire Bible is full of warnings against the very thing you are fighting for.

All attached files speak to this very thing. All scripture.

Times of Ignorance. Current Church age deception with verses

Times of Ignorance Part#1 Act 17:28 KJV "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, for we are also his offspring." Act 17:28 For in him (Jesus) we (Christians) live (Eph 2:8-10 Rom 10:9,10), and move, and have our being (Acts 17:24); as...

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2 Peter 2:1-3 KJV — But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV — This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Isaiah 29:13 KJV — Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Ezekiel 33:31 KJV — And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.
Ezekiel 33:32 KJV — And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

Read all of Matthew 23. Christ giving a warning against religion.

Matthew 23:13-15 KJV — But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

REVELATION chapter 2 and 3 wrap it all up into a nutshell for the world denominational system.

John 8:23 KJV — And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

John 18:36 KJV — Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world(Heb 12:23): if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

1 Corinthians 15:47 KJV — The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

 

[David Lamb]

Don't restrict yourself to any part of any of my statements. You're fighting for denominationalism. I'm fighting for Christ.

Their "Statement of Faith" is nothing more than a tactic to get you into their denomination. They are all the same, Set up by man for man. Its not what they say, its what they do. When words don't line up with action, that's manipulation. They keep you under the law, thus keeping you blind to the Truth in Christ. They cant tell you the Truth about Christ because it would close their doors and free you.

That "statement of Faith" is the snare that gets you to buy into the lie. That's the tip of the iceberg. The entire Bible is full of warnings against the very thing you are fighting for.

All attached files speak to this very thing. All scripture.

Times of Ignorance. Current Church age deception with verses

Times of Ignorance Part#1 Act 17:28 KJV "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, for we are also his offspring." Act 17:28 For in him (Jesus) we (Christians) live (Eph 2:8-10 Rom 10:9,10), and move, and have our being (Acts 17:24); as...

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2 Peter 2:1-3 KJV — But there were false prophets also among the people, even as there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in damnable heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon themselves swift destruction. And many shall follow their pernicious ways; by reason of whom the way of truth shall be evil spoken of. And through covetousness shall they with feigned words make merchandise of you: whose judgment now of a long time lingereth not, and their damnation slumbereth not.

Matthew 15:8-9 KJV — This people draweth nigh unto me with their mouth, and honoureth me with their lips; but their heart is far from me. But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

Isaiah 29:13 KJV — Wherefore the Lord said, Forasmuch as this people draw near me with their mouth, and with their lips do honour me, but have removed their heart far from me, and their fear toward me is taught by the precept of men:

Ezekiel 33:31 KJV — And they come unto thee as the people cometh, and they sit before thee as my people, and they hear thy words, but they will not do them: for with their mouth they shew much love, but their heart goeth after their covetousness.
Ezekiel 33:32 KJV — And, lo, thou art unto them as a very lovely song of one that hath a pleasant voice, and can play well on an instrument: for they hear thy words, but they do them not.

Read all of Matthew 23. Christ giving a warning against religion.

Matthew 23:13-15 KJV — But woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye shut up the kingdom of heaven against men: for ye neither go in yourselves, neither suffer ye them that are entering to go in. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye devour widows' houses, and for a pretence make long prayer: therefore ye shall receive the greater damnation. Woe unto you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! for ye compass sea and land to make one proselyte, and when he is made, ye make him twofold more the child of hell than yourselves.

REVELATION chapter 2 and 3 wrap it all up into a nutshell for the world denominational system.

John 8:23 KJV — And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world.

John 18:36 KJV — Jesus answered, My kingdom is not of this world(Heb 12:23): if my kingdom were of this world, then would my servants fight, that I should not be delivered to the Jews: but now is my kingdom not from hence.

1 Corinthians 15:47 KJV — The first man is of the earth, earthy: the second man is the Lord from heaven.

I assure you I am not fighting for denominationalism - my church is not in a denomination. I'm just sating that it is wrong to accuse every denomination of being against the bible. The scriptures you quote are against false religion. There is no mention of denominations. I agree that some religions either go against the bible or add other things to it, and that is wrong, but not all denominations do.

 

[Legion7777777]

I assure you I am not fighting for denominationalism - my church is not in a denomination. I'm just sating that it is wrong to accuse every denomination of being against the bible. The scriptures you quote are against false religion. There is no mention of denominations. I agree that some religions either go against the bible or add other things to it, and that is wrong, but not all denominations do.

If you know one, you know them all.

 

[David Lamb]

If you know one, you know them all.

That just isn't so. Denominations differ from one another tremendously. Some hold to a Roman Catholic type of belief, some are liberal in their theology, and some hold to beliefs based firmly on God's Word, so knowing one denomination certainly isn't know all denominations.

 

[Legion7777777]

That just isn't so. Denominations differ from one another tremendously. Some hold to a Roman Catholic type of belief, some are liberal in their theology, and some hold to beliefs based firmly on God's Word, so knowing one denomination certainly isn't know all denominations.

Man made. Covering with fig leaves. Doctrines and commandments of men. Their fuel is filthy lucre(money). Jesus Christ Church is Grace and Truth.

 

[David Lamb]

Man made. Covering with fig leaves. Doctrines and commandments of men. Their fuel is filthy lucre(money). Jesus Christ Church is Grace and Truth.

Yes, and there are denominations that would agree with you that man-made doctrines and the yearning for filthy lucre is wrong. But there are denominations who would fully agree with that, too.

 

[Legion7777777]

Yes, and there are denominations that would agree with you that man-made doctrines and the yearning for filthy lucre is wrong. But there are denominations who would fully agree with that, too.

Genesis 11:7-9 KJV — Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

 

[JEBofChristTheLord]

If you know one, you know them all.

Since you are not God, and not remotely close to His knowledge of His people, I'll remain very confident that you know almost none of them, and therefore have no good in making such accusation.

 

[David Lamb]

Genesis 11:7-9 KJV — Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech. So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city. Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

What has God confusing human language at Babel got to do with whether or not all denominations are bad?

 

[Legion7777777]

Since you are not God, and not remotely close to His knowledge of His people, I'll remain very confident that you know almost none of them, and therefore have no good in making such accusation.

Its what the bible says. Not my opinion.

 

[Legion7777777]

What has God confusing human language at Babel got to do with whether or not all denominations are bad?

That is the story of denominations.

 

[Legion7777777]

Since you are not God, and not remotely close to His knowledge of His people, I'll remain very confident that you know almost none of them, and therefore have no good in making such accusation.

Times of Ignorance. Current Church age deception with verses

Times of Ignorance Part#1 Act 17:28 KJV "For in him we live, and move, and have our being; as certain also of your own poets have said, for we are also his offspring." Act 17:28 For in him (Jesus) we (Christians) live (Eph 2:8-10 Rom 10:9,10), and move, and have our being (Acts 17:24); as...

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