Environmentalism

Aimee30 · Jan 14, 2005

If the planet is doomed why do people want to harm God's creation. God made it and saw that it was good. If it was good to God, why is it not good to any of you? God wants people to take care of his creation not to trash it until all the animals and plants are dead and no one has any food left! Anyway, no one knows what day or hour the son of man cometh--so how is it right to trash what God called good because God is coming back? I think God would upset that people don't give a care about anything he made for them. Consider the lillies of the field and also God even cares for the sparrow. Think about it. God loved his creation--who are humans to destroy what God made just because the world might end?

joebudda · Jan 14, 2005

Ani Difrancos new album Educated Guess has a song on it called Animal has a verse that rings very true to me.

http://www.danah.org/Ani/EducatedGuess/Animal.html

more and more there is this animal
looking out through my eyes
seeing that animals only take from this world
what they need to survive
but she is prowling through all the religions of men
seeing that time and time and time again
their gods have made them
special and above
nature's law
and the respect thereof

cabbitgrrrl · Jan 14, 2005

Hooch said:
We will all be saved from this retreched planet when the rapture occurs.

In the meantime- what matters it that we destroy a planet that is doomed?

See what I mean Nemo? This is JUST the attitude I was talking about, thank you Hooch for illustrating this for me

cabbitgrrrl · Jan 14, 2005

Aimee30 said:
If the planet is doomed why do people want to harm God's creation. God made it and saw that it was good. If it was good to God, why is it not good to any of you? God wants people to take care of his creation not to trash it until all the animals and plants are dead and no one has any food left! Anyway, no one knows what day or hour the son of man cometh--so how is it right to trash what God called good because God is coming back? I think God would upset that people don't give a care about anything he made for them. Consider the lillies of the field and also God even cares for the sparrow. Think about it. God loved his creation--who are humans to destroy what God made just because the world might end?

Also as it is said somewhere in the old testament i think in Genesis, god only wants humans to kill animals in order to survive, not just kill them off. Therefore by ignoring the environment you are killing off the animals and breaking your god's command. Also it could be indirectly linked to murder of humans through cancers of all sorts, therefore breaking one of the ten commandments

R.James · Jan 15, 2005

Hooch said:
We will all be saved from this retreched planet when the rapture occurs.

In the meantime- what matters it that we destroy a planet that is doomed?

Are you being sarcastic?

kedaman · Jan 15, 2005

Aimee30 said:
If the planet is doomed why do people want to harm God's creation. God made it and saw that it was good. If it was good to God, why is it not good to any of you? God wants people to take care of his creation not to trash it until all the animals and plants are dead and no one has any food left! Anyway, no one knows what day or hour the son of man cometh--so how is it right to trash what God called good because God is coming back? I think God would upset that people don't give a care about anything he made for them. Consider the lillies of the field and also God even cares for the sparrow. Think about it. God loved his creation--who are humans to destroy what God made just because the world might end?

We are not of this world, we are at war with the world. The world is cursed and is governed by Satan; anyone who clings on to it will die with it. God's creation was not like this from the start, how could you even call it his creation with so much evil in it? We cannot see God's creation since Satan has blinded us.
Love does not require care. Jesus does not want to burden us with worldy responsibilities. When Jesus told us to love our enemies, he meant that we should forgive them, not that we should care about them. That is what Satan wants, because such responsibilities make us forget our mission here and follow him instead by ruling the world, and the ruler of the world is doomed. The gospel is salvation, and love is to redeem us as well as others, not tie us down. I'm not saying that we should be careless for each other, just that we are only obligated to care for our own salvation trough the commandment to love our neightbours as ourselves.

kedaman · Jan 15, 2005

cabbitgrrrl said:
Also as it is said somewhere in the old testament i think in Genesis, god only wants humans to kill animals in order to survive, not just kill them off. Therefore by ignoring the environment you are killing off the animals and breaking your god's command. Also it could be indirectly linked to murder of humans through cancers of all sorts, therefore breaking one of the ten commandments

You are not killing anyone by inaction.

sinner/SAVED · Jan 15, 2005

Hooch said:
We will all be saved from this retreched planet when the rapture occurs.

In the meantime- what matters it that we destroy a planet that is doomed?

What if we destroy the planet before Christ returns and there's noone left to be raptured?

cabbitgrrrl · Jan 15, 2005

kedaman said:
You are not killing anyone by inaction.

it isnt inaction if you contribute to the pollution without trying to amend for it

cabbitgrrrl · Jan 15, 2005

kedaman said:
We are not of this world, we are at war with the world. The world is cursed and is governed by Satan; anyone who clings on to it will die with it. God's creation was not like this from the start, how could you even call it his creation with so much evil in it? We cannot see God's creation since Satan has blinded us.

so the cute little squirrels are actually creations of Satan? guess that means we shouldnt bother trying to miss them when we are driving now doesnt it, i mean who wants a demonic squirrel to live?

kedaman · Jan 15, 2005

cabbitgrrrl said:
it isnt inaction if you contribute to the pollution without trying to amend for it

You can't amend for it. The slightest error and the entire cosmos perish.

cabbitgrrrl said:
so the cute little squirrels are actually creations of Satan? guess that means we shouldnt bother trying to miss them when we are driving now doesnt it, i mean who wants a demonic squirrel to live?

No. I said Satan governs this world, he doesn't create anything. Squirrels are not demonic themselves. The only things are demonic are so because you judge them so.

cabbitgrrrl · Jan 15, 2005

kedaman said:
You can't amend for it. The slightest error and the entire cosmos perish.

No. I said Satan governs this world, he doesn't create anything. Squirrels are not demonic themselves. The only things are demonic are so because you judge them so.

So then that means the squirrel is a creation of god, unless of course you believe that your god had nothing to do with creating the animals. You know, theres a saying that you guys follow that goes: What would Jesus do? Do you really think that Jesus would ignore the squirrel even if it was right before he was about to be crucified?

kedaman · Jan 15, 2005

cabbitgrrrl said:
So then that means the squirrel is a creation of god, unless of course you believe that your god had nothing to do with creating the animals. You know, theres a saying that you guys follow that goes: What would Jesus do? Do you really think that Jesus would ignore the squirrel even if it was right before he was about to be crucified?

The squirrel is a creation of God yes. I'm not sure what point you are trying to make with the saying.

morningstar2651 · Jan 15, 2005

"We need to destroy God's creation because it's evil.
A squirrel is a creation of God.
Therefore, we need to destroy squirrels because they're evil."

Aimee30 · Jan 15, 2005

If satan governs this world, then satan is the one telling you its useless and can be trashed regardless of what it does to other people. Satan is the ruler against God's creation. That's why he tempted mankind into error in the first place--he wanted someone to fall with him. Satan is in charge of things done against God and his creation. He is in charge of the selfish ambitions of mankind and takes our eyes off of what is doing right. He makes us puffed up with our own ego so that we think we can do whatever we please without consequences. Be careful.
Remember--do unto others as you would have them do unto you. This means everything that causes harm to others is not a good thing regardless of if the world passes away. God doesn't create junk--don't treat creation like junk.

By the way, I won't have much time for the next week to be online, so I may not get back to this soon.

Peace, love, recycle. (Yes, I giot this from a TV show.)

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