Einstein: Why We're Alive

KCfromNC · Dec 9, 2013

Received said:
So I question the use of "works" as a standard for determining truth. And you say, "hey, show me how your perspective works."

You prefer a method for determining truth which demonstrably doesn't work to determine truth? OK, but don't be surprised if people don't take you very seriously.

Received · Dec 9, 2013

What does begging the question mean to you?

KCfromNC · Dec 10, 2013

What do you how to accomplish with this sort of game? Seriously, if you have any substantive responses the time is long past to come out with them.

Received · Dec 10, 2013

Begging the question is a game?

Seriously, I don't think you mean that. So how do you think I can make an appeal to you begging the question without it being game-like to you?

KCfromNC · Dec 10, 2013

To clear things up, the game I was talking about was taking threads off on tangents when you come across questions which you appear to be unable to address directly.

Received · Dec 10, 2013

So you're saying appealing to a logical fallacy with regard to an argument is getting off course?

KCfromNC · Dec 11, 2013

Hey, you're the one questioning whether "works to reliably produce useful knowledge" is a good test of a systems which is alleged to produce knowledge. It's not a logical fallacy to explore the implications of your indecision.

The problem here is you can't answer. If you admit that "works to reliably produce useful knowledge" is a good test, then you'd be stuck having to show that intuition does. But if you reject that idea, you have to admit that the question you call begging is actually a legitimate one based on your claims. So which to choose?

Received · Dec 11, 2013

Where did you get the quote, "works to reliably produce useful knowledge?" I'm being serious here.

KCfromNC · Dec 12, 2013

It's the point I was trying to make several times in this thread. For instance, see post 17.

Received · Dec 13, 2013

So if "works reliably to produce useful knowledge" is your position, then why on earth would I say it's a "good test"? I'm lost on what you're saying here.

Oh, and we all know that this is because I have no way of answering because my argument is invalid. (Go ahead, I'm awaiting your response. That's right.)

Received · Dec 13, 2013

So if "works reliably to produce useful knowledge" is your position, then why on earth would I say it's a "good test"? I'm lost on what you're saying here.

Oh, and we all know that this is because I have no way of answering because my argument is invalid. (Go ahead, I'm awaiting your response. That's right.)

KCfromNC · Dec 14, 2013

Received said:
So if "works reliably to produce useful knowledge" is your position, then why on earth would I say it's a "good test"?

If you don't know why you would or wouldn't say something, it's not my place to get involved. Think it through and come back when you've figured out what you think you would say.

Received · Dec 14, 2013

I see what you did there.

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