early literature for or against the assumption.

[simonthezealot]

TEP made the assertion that overwhelming evidence favored the assumption, i'm curious...
Which writings?

 

[Kristos]

TEP made the assertion that overwhelming evidence favored the assumption, i'm curious...
Which writings?

I've never seen any. I think most are piously quite on the issue.

I think the best source for information about the Dormition of the Theotokos would be the service and hymns of the feast.

 

[simonthezealot]

So tep's assertion was a fairly blind one?

 

[Kristos]

I don't know - maybe he can provided some reference and elucidate us.

 

[DD2008]

I don't know - maybe he can provided some reference and elucidate us.

Maybe it's based on oral tradition.

 

[simonthezealot]

Got the feeling this thread is going to quietly slide off into oblivion.

 

[Danya]

Got the feeling this thread is going to quietly slide off into oblivion.

Yes it will.

 

[bbbbbbb]

I assume so, as well. And that is my earliest statement concerning my assumption.

 

[Danya]

I assume so, as well. And that is my earliest statement concerning my assumption.

 

[simonthezealot]

I assume so, as well. And that is my earliest statement concerning my assumption.

At least yours in on record with witnesses...

 

[bbbbbbb]

At least yours in on record with witnesses...

Yes.

 

[Danya]

this thread is chock full of info and excitement

 

[simonthezealot]

 

[Thekla]

IIRC, TEP took a "break" from GT until after Easter ...
(just curious - did TEP say specifically "writings" ?)

 

[simonthezealot]

writings and tradition...
http://www.christianforums.com/showpost.php?p=51222811&postcount=310

 

[Ave Maria]

From the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia:

Regarding the day, year, and manner of Our Lady's death, nothing certain is known. The earliest known literary reference to the Assumption is found in the Greek work De Obitu S. Dominae. Catholic faith, however, has always derived our knowledge of the mystery from Apostolic Tradition. Epiphanius (d. 403) acknowledged that he knew nothing definite about it (Haer., lxxix, 11). The dates assigned for it vary between three and fifteen years after Christ's Ascension. Two cities claim to be the place of her departure: Jerusalem and Ephesus. Common consent favours Jerusalem, where her tomb is shown; but some argue in favour of Ephesus. The first six centuries did not know of the tomb of Mary at Jerusalem. The belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is founded on the apocryphal treatise De Obitu S. Dominae, bearing the name of St. John, which belongs however to the fourth or fifth century. It is also found in the book De Transitu Virginis, falsely ascribed to St. Melito of Sardis, and in a spurious letter attributed to St. Denis the Areopagite. If we consult genuine writings in the East, it is mentioned in the sermons of St. Andrew of Crete, St. John Damascene, St. Modestus of Jerusalem and others. In the West, St. Gregory of Tours (De gloria mart., I, iv) mentions it first. The sermons of St. Jerome and St. Augustine for this feast, however, are spurious. St. John of Damascus (P.G., I, 96) thus formulates the tradition of the Church of Jerusalem:

St. Juvenal, Bishop of Jerusalem, at the Council of Chalcedon (451), made known to the Emperor Marcian and Pulcheria, who wished to possess the body of the Mother of God, that Mary died in the presence of all the Apostles, but that her tomb, when opened, upon the request of St. Thomas, was found empty; wherefrom the Apostles concluded that the body was taken up to heaven.
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Today, the belief in the corporeal assumption of Mary is universal in the East and in the West; according to Benedict XIV (De Festis B.V.M., I, viii, 18) it is a probable opinion, which to deny were impious and blasphemous.

Perhaps this section of the New Advent Catholic Encyclopedia will help the discussion out?

That said, I personally do not know if I believe in the assumption of Mary or not. I am honestly rather skeptical of it though.

 

[simonthezealot]

Hey i forgot about this thread...

 

[LittleLambofJesus]

IIRC, TEP took a "break" from GT until after Easter ...
(just curious - did TEP say specifically "writings" ?)

Isn't Easter over with now? Hope he is ok

Hey i forgot about this thread...

Yeah right