Drunk in the Holy Ghost

[forgivenzealot]

Where in the scripture is this....

Can someone Please help....

 

[PoetSaskia]

I think the closest thing you'll find is "Be not drunk with wine, but be filled with the Holy Spirit." I'm pretty sure that's what it says. Don't remember where that is though.

 

[KleinerApfel]

This is the verse you quoted from PoetSaskia:
Ephesians 5:18
Do not get drunk on wine, which leads to debauchery. Instead, be filled with the Spirit.

I think the idea also came from the day of Pentecost when the onlookers saw and heard the Spirit-filled disciples and thought they were behaving as if drunk:
Acts 2:13
Some, however, made fun of them and said, "They have had too much wine."

Both of these imply that a person filled with the Holy Spirit may appear to others or feel themselves to be intoxicated.

Blessings, Susana

 

[Father Rick]

"When the Lord brought back the captives of Zion, we were like those who dream. Then our mouths were filled with laughter and our tongues with singing."


There are numerous scriptures saying to 'exceedingly rejoice' or to be 'exceedingly glad', etc. How would one look/act if one were doing this?

Susana started quoting Acts 2...it continues with Peter saying "these are not drunk as you suppose,... but they are filled with the Holy Ghost." Why did the observers think they were drunk? Because they were speaking in tongues? No, because the people from all the different countries recognized the languages-- something else in the way they were acting made those who saw them think they were all drunk.

 

[John 15:13]

I've never been drunk in the Holy Ghost. I've never been slain. I've often wondered about these things.

Once, this lady was very depressed. She just sat in church alone and brewed on the self-pity. I kid you not, this is what happened next:

Ronnie Rowan walked over to her, pointed at her and said, "LAUGH..........NOW!"

Well, everybody got quiet for a few seconds and I watched to see if anything happened. Nothing and so I thought he was a fake. Then, as he began to preach again, she began to laugh hysterically and stagger around the area where she was seated. Never seen anything like it before.

 

[KleinerApfel]

I've never been drunk in the Holy Ghost. I've never been slain. I've often wondered about these things.

Once, this lady was very depressed. She just sat in church alone and brewed on the self-pity. I kid you not, this is what happened next:

Ronnie Rowan walked over to her, pointed at her and said, "LAUGH..........NOW!"

Well, everybody got quiet for a few seconds and I watched to see if anything happened. Nothing and so I thought he was a fake. Then, as he began to preach again, she began to laugh hysterically and stagger around the area where she was seated. Never seen anything like it before.

Was the poor woman so unnerved by being put on the spot that she really was hysterical? Or was she healed of depression from that day?

As one who has suffered depressive episodes, that sounds really scary to me, and I'm usually pretty open about things.

God bless, Susana

 

[xsynerinc]

Was the poor woman so unnerved by being put on the spot that she really was hysterical? Or was she healed of depression from that day?

As one who has suffered depressive episodes, that sounds really scary to me, and I'm usually pretty open about things.

God bless, Susana

why should anything that comes from God be scary? perhaps this is an area for the renewal of the mind?

these things of joy are for believers, its supposed to be normal for us who have come out of darkness and into His marvelous light... much more normal than suffering under any depression.

isa 61:3 talks about oil of gladness instead of mourning, spirit of heaviness (or depression).

in todays language the oil of gladness could be "the anointing of joy/laughter" or, "laughing in the spirit".

this happened to me before i really put it together with a few scriptures that i'd heard before but up to that time never connected them to what i experienced.
there was a time once when i was in a down mental attitude over something.. so someone reached over to pray for me. they never got to, they just barely touched me and i immediately launched into such loud laughter that i didn't know i was capable of.

it so happened that i had been praying in the spirit for some amount of time before and during that 'down' attitude. so when the Bible says you will be edified when you pray in the spirit. (1cor.14), believe it.

 

[Lathe]

Yes, PoetSaskia is right, but I don't remember where it is, either.

 

[KleinerApfel]

Yes, PoetSaskia is right, but I don't remember where it is, either.

Look back to post #3!

 

[KleinerApfel]

why should anything that comes from God be scary? perhaps this is an area for the renewal of the mind?

these things of joy are for believers, its supposed to be normal for us who have come out of darkness and into His marvelous light... much more normal than suffering under any depression.

isa 61:3 talks about oil of gladness instead of mourning, spirit of heaviness (or depression).

in todays language the oil of gladness could be "the anointing of joy/laughter" or, "laughing in the spirit".

this happened to me before i really put it together with a few scriptures that i'd heard before but up to that time never connected them to what i experienced.
there was a time once when i was in a down mental attitude over something.. so someone reached over to pray for me. they never got to, they just barely touched me and i immediately launched into such loud laughter that i didn't know i was capable of.

it so happened that i had been praying in the spirit for some amount of time before and during that 'down' attitude. so when the Bible says you will be edified when you pray in the spirit. (1cor.14), believe it.

I think I was being defensive because of your remark about self-pity. Depression is a heavy burden, and often lasts a long time. It's not the same animal as a few weeks of being "a bit down in attitude." Telling truly depressed folks that they're sinning is not often very helpful.

I still think it might be rather unerving to have someone come up to me and publicly command me to laugh if I was in the depths of depression.

I concede that if it truly is of God, then it will result in good things, I just wouldn't want to see it used as a routine attempt to deal with depressed people.

If it worked for this lady, then obviously God did it!

God bless, Susana

 

[riverpastor]

As a young man, I had acquired a taste for whiskey. Not just any whiskey... it was only Crown Royal for me. So I drank it sparingly, from time to time, but when I drank, I drank of it all.

So, I understood what "drunk" was. And a lot of people react differently to the sensation of "being drunk". You have your "fightin' drunks" who when they had a little too much became barbarians and wanted to brawl with everyone in sight. You have your "touchy-feely drunks" who once inebriated would hang all over other people and just touch folks. You had your "laughing drunks" - usually stoic people who one intoxicated would laugh at any and everything and sometimes the most ignorant things. And the "loving drunks" who became very emotional and would tell total strangers "I love you, man" and really meant it (at the time).

So, when I began to experience being "drunk in the Spirit", and it was some years down the road from having been filled with the Holy Spirit, I could easily authenticate the inebriation that is sensed when one is full of the new wine.

I was a witness to Peter's statement of Joel's statement: this is that!!!

It was Jesus, saving the best wine for last in my own life.

But the most satisfying thing of being "drunk in the Spirit" is what causes this intoxication in God's Presence. With the earthly stuff, there is a fermentation process that causes sugar to turn to alcohol which, of course, disrupts the proper functioning of brain cells with repercussions throughout the rest of the body when consumed orally.

For me, that "something" that makes it worth being in the state of drunkeness in the Spirit is the LOVE of God.

To be drunk on His Love which is unconditional and unprovoked. To experience that Love in a way that is very real is beyond human expression. Like joy unspeakable and full of Glory!

 

[KleinerApfel]

As a young man, I had acquired a taste for whiskey. Not just any whiskey... it was only Crown Royal for me. So I drank it sparingly, from time to time, but when I drank, I drank of it all.

So, I understood what "drunk" was. And a lot of people react differently to the sensation of "being drunk". You have your "fightin' drunks" who when they had a little too much became barbarians and wanted to brawl with everyone in sight. You have your "touchy-feely drunks" who once inebriated would hang all over other people and just touch folks. You had your "laughing drunks" - usually stoic people who one intoxicated would laugh at any and everything and sometimes the most ignorant things. And the "loving drunks" who became very emotional and would tell total strangers "I love you, man" and really meant it (at the time).

So, when I began to experience being "drunk in the Spirit", and it was some years down the road from having been filled with the Holy Spirit, I could easily authenticate the inebriation that is sensed when one is full of the new wine.

I was a witness to Peter's statement of Joel's statement: this is that!!!

It was Jesus, saving the best wine for last in my own life.

But the most satisfying thing of being "drunk in the Spirit" is what causes this intoxication in God's Presence. With the earthly stuff, there is a fermentation process that causes sugar to turn to alcohol which, of course, disrupts the proper functioning of brain cells with repercussions throughout the rest of the body when consumed orally.

For me, that "something" that makes it worth being in the state of drunkeness in the Spirit is the LOVE of God.

To be drunk on His Love which is unconditional and unprovoked. To experience that Love in a way that is very real is beyond human expression. Like joy unspeakable and full of Glory!

You are wetting my appetite. Funny isn't it, how even the longing for God is sweet though?

Blessings, Susana

 

[riverpastor]

absolutely.

 

[xsynerinc]

I think I was being defensive because of your remark about self-pity. Depression is a heavy burden, and often lasts a long time. It's not the same animal as a few weeks of being "a bit down in attitude." Telling truly depressed folks that they're sinning is not often very helpful.

excuse me please. i re read through my post and i didn't find any remark there of self-pity.
neither did i find anything to indicate that i called having depression to be sinning.

I still think it might be rather unerving to have someone come up to me and publicly command me to laugh if I was in the depths of depression.

I concede that if it truly is of God, then it will result in good things, I just wouldn't want to see it used as a routine attempt to deal with depressed people.

If it worked for this lady, then obviously God did it!

God bless, Susana

please excuse also that i misunderstood "depressive episodes". to me that meant something like what i wrote about. sorry.
i thought that more than four days was of length to count as more than being just a little down in attitude.


in cases of long depression - i agree with you that to someone who wouldn't be looking for some relief it might be somewhat unnerving.



please forgive the misunderstandings.

 

[KleinerApfel]

excuse me please. i re read through my post and i didn't find any remark there of self-pity.
neither did i find anything to indicate that i called having depression to be sinning.



please excuse also that i misunderstood "depressive episodes". to me that meant something like what i wrote about. sorry.
i thought that more than four days was of length to count as more than being just a little down in attitude.


in cases of long depression - i agree with you that to someone who wouldn't be looking for some relief it might be somewhat unnerving.



please forgive the misunderstandings.

Xsynerinc, forgive me, you are right you didn't mention self-pity. That was someone else.

I apologise for my attitude yesterday, don't know what came over me.

God bless, Susana

 

[KleinerApfel]

absolutely.

Riverpastor, are you there today?
A friend of mine would like to speak to you but your mailbox is full so I said I'd try and track you down.

Blessings, Susana

 

[NewSong]

I have been drunk in the Holy Ghost and thought that I never received the Holy Spirit at all in the service. I have been a cry Holy Ghost whinno. Often I have no clue how much the Holy Spirit has saturated me until I go to leave a service. I have been stopped twice for driving "intoxicated" only for the police to come up empty. The first time I had 5 people in my vehicle and they called out the whole Sheriff squad to back up the assistant chief of Police when he pulled me over. I was sure I was stone sober in God and never cried so hard in my life until I rolled down the window to that officer and all the sherriff's department that came for backup. I burst into laughter and couldn't quit at the point the officer leaned through my car and started shining his flashlight all through my car looking at our coolers we had taken on this journey for these out of town meetings. With as much composure as I could muster, I answered the officer and he still had a problem with my answers and so I offered to walk a white line to prove I had not drank anything alcoholic...there was no white line on this country road. (Not good) Finally someone said "She's been drinking at Joel's place." The officer enquired, at whose place? so I said they were referring to some passages in the Bible and a song that was getting song and I explained. He says, Mam, I am Baptist and I am a Christian too and I don't act like that. Then the car, I kid you not said well you can have some too, with your job you must need some!....

The office forced to ticket me couldn't produce the evidence that I was alcohol inebriated and he was quite embarrassed because he had called out the whole sherriff department for backup. He wrote me a ticket for driving irratically. Then plea bargained with the judge for me and told me to put the money in the offering plate.

I still don't know why that happened to this day. It has happend twice now and I have a designated driver now if I go to church and that happens. It is almost like when I was living in the world and acts just like when I was the drunk and I don't understand it. In fact, it is always something I find myself resisting because I don't want to act like I did when I was was that person drinking my "whisky" which was always mixed in everything I drank. I would drink and then cry. While it has been 23 1/2 years since I drank that stuff, now I am having this in GOD?

I have to be perfectly honest, that I find it hard to believe that God would want me to look so stupid and be a poor testimony.

So that was my experience of being drunk in the ""????HOLY GHOST"""""

I really have nothing to explain it with. I am not that easily controlled in my mind...

Thanks for any comments and don't mean to side track the thread...In fact, I am not sure if I should be posting this here. I have yet to find what I do in a case like this on the forum.

Thanks,

NewSong

 

[riverpastor]

The "why" (and really the "how") can only be described as God's purpose and plan. I have episodes in the grocery store and at home and in my car where I feel the anointing so strong - I my body immediately responds in a drunken state. I certainly do not try to quench the Presence of the Holy Spirit.

The drunkenness is only an experience as the body responds to God's Presence. I have always been in my "right mind" when I was drunk in the Spirit.

The thing is - this is the place where I know that my burdens have been exchanged for His yoke. It is here that the weight and the pressure of the world and family and friends and work and church and ministry and (you name it) loses its ability to frustrate and pull me down and where I meet with the Lord face to face in the Spirit...

 

[SOLDOUT4HIM]

What is drunk in the Spirit? I have been so happy I could hardly contain myself, couldn't stop dancing. I don't know if this is drunk in the Spirit b/c I've never been drunk.

 

[riverpastor]

The disciples "appeared" drunk to those around them after leaving the Upper Room in Acts 2.

In your own mind, what kind of behavior physically would you say that they were possibly exhibiting?

Sometimes, I think that we envision the disciples coming out of the Upper Room all proper and standing up straight and holy and just very matter-of-factly speaking in unkown languages to them.

The men who witnessed this saw something that caused them to believe that they had been drinking in the early morning...

There is a joy, SO4H, that very often accompanies the drunkenness of the Spirit...

For me, there is at times, but mostly, my body responds to the anointing by literally swaying to and fro while I am standing or walking. Like riding a surfboard and trying to keep your balance or being on a small boat in deep waters...