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Drugs are bad!!!!

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Yes, drugs are bad, but this does not mean marijuana. Yes marijuana is a drug, but it is one of the more harmless drug out there.

Marijuana is widely used to treat nausea and appetite lossassociated with AIDS.......There is much evidence, largely anecdotal, that marijuana is useful as an anti-convulsant for spinal injuries, multiple sclerosis, epilepsy, and other diseases.......Cannabidiol, a constituent of natural marijuana not found in Marinol, appears to have distinctive therapeutic value as an anti-convulsant and hypnotic.......Many patients report using marijuana as a substitute for moreaddictive and harmful psychoactive drugs, including prescription painkillers, opiates, and alcoholMarijuana and Marinol have also beenfound useful as a treatment for depression and mood disorders in Alzheimer's and other patients
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Shyguy420 said:
Yes, drugs are bad, but this does not mean marijuana. Yes marijuana is a drug, but it is one of the more harmless drug out there.
So its basicly just a lesser evil? Let me ask you a question. If I gave you a glass of water, but told you that I had only put a FEW drops of a very light poison in it, would you drink it? Think about it. What your saying is that drugs are bad, and that yes, marijuana is a drug, but its not as bad as other stuff.

If you use this on other things in life, you won't go very far. I mean, stealing is bad, but its not as bad as murder, so its ok right?
 
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It's about how they are used. Most of this article is about medicinal use.
Cocaine and opiates are used in various ways in medicine but that doesn't mean they're not harmful to users on the street.
Cannibis has some positives. It also has some negatives.

It's an issue in my country, with a push to decriminalize. We have an MP in parliment who openly admits to using it.
I don't do drugs and never have but I'm still torn on the issue.

One one hand, people have a choice. But then, by that logic, they could chose heroin too right? It doesn't hurt anyone else.

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Matt Never Existed said:
So its basicly just a lesser evil? Let me ask you a question. If I gave you a glass of water, but told you that I had only put a FEW drops of a very light poison in it, would you drink it? Think about it. What your saying is that drugs are bad, and that yes, marijuana is a drug, but its not as bad as other stuff.
So you never drink anything with caffeine? You never plan to drink alcohol?

I would amend to OP to say drugs can be bad, but aren't always.
 
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Render unto to Ceasure that which is Ceaser's. We are commanded to obey authority so long as authority does not contravene scripture. Since there is no scritpure that requires us to party down, I think we have to honor the law. If you want to do some serious drugs, go to Amsterdam (or anywhere else they are legal).

Smoking a joint is a sin, not becasue smoking the joint is wrong per se, but because it is a failure to respect authority: which we are called upon to do be the scriptures.

No reason, however, not to agitate for a change in the drug laws!
 
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Drugs Aren't bad, but years of programing by the government and the media is, and has apparently gotten to some people.

Drugs aren't bad, they are lifeless chemicals, sometimes they even occur naturally in the body. What is bad is abuse of those chemicals, addiction, irresposibility, etc. But it is generally easier to demonize and ban lifeless chemicals than it is to stop the underlying reason why those chemicals are bad.

All substances can be abused and thus become unhealthy to a person. If you abuse water, you can kill yourself. Of course some things are easier to abuse than others.
 
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I'm not too interested in what people tell me about Marijuana. I don't want to do any illegal drugs and I don't want anyone I know to do them. I would like it if other people didn't do them either, but nobody ever listens to me anyways, why would anyone care about how I think on that XD

The thing is, is that once a person feels comfortable doing one illegal drug, they aren't as afraid to try others. There are other ways in life to relax then to resort to doing something illegal.

Edit: Does water have addictive tendencies? No. It's a common argument that people use that "You are programmed by the Gov/Mom/state/society/ect.

What if the Government is just using reverse psychology and that they actually want you to do drugs?

Think that sounds silly? So does saying someone is "programmed"
 
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But do you do "legal" drugs? Like chocolate, or caffeine, or alcohol or tobbaco or over the counter drugs like Tylenol or Benydril or cough medicine or...

See, the problem is that the only difference between most illegal drugs and legal drugs is that the government has decided you aren't allowed to do the illegal ones, even though legal drugs can often be more dangerous than illegal drugs.


I say programed by the government because we have been taught that drug A is evil and thus illegal but drug B is ok, even though its not always true. often misinformation is how a drug becomes illegal, Marijuana for example became illegal after a big push based on false information that it would make people go insane and murder. Same happened with absinthe (which is not a drug beyond the legal drug of alcohol) at the turn of the century, when it was demonized for causing a man to murder his family. The fact that he had drank a large amount of multiple kinds of alcohol got ignored.

Nope, water doesn't have addictive tendencies, but it is easier to overdose on water than it is to over dose on marijuana. The legal drugs of alcohol, tobacco and even caffeine are much more dangerous than marijuana and have caused many more deaths and other pain.

Drugs (and practically everything, which was the point of the water example) are bad for you when used irressponsibly. So we shouldn't rely on the government to tell us what is good or bad, but our own common sense and ability to think for ourselves.

Anyways, the point of this rather long post is not to say that drugs are good, but that common sense is good, and that we shouldn't always trust the governments anti drug propoganda without checking it out ourselves, because their track record hasn't been too good.



MsShinobu said:
I'm not too interested in what people tell me about Marijuana. I don't want to do any illegal drugs and I don't want anyone I know to do them. I would like it if other people didn't do them either, but nobody ever listens to me anyways, why would anyone care about how I think on that XD

The thing is, is that once a person feels comfortable doing one illegal drug, they aren't as afraid to try others. There are other ways in life to relax then to resort to doing something illegal.

Edit: Does water have addictive tendencies? No. It's a common argument that people use that "You are programmed by the Gov/Mom/state/society/ect.

What if the Government is just using reverse psychology and that they actually want you to do drugs?

Think that sounds silly? So does saying someone is "programmed"
 
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I'll have to agree. Drugs like cigarettes serve no purpose whatsoever. They simply kill God's creations slowly and painfully. Marijuana (that hasn't been tampered with) does have medicinal purposes. It's only when people use it too much that it actually becomes dangerous. I've never used Marijuana mostly because it's illegal and I don't require the medicinal benifets, but the fact is there are benifets.

Keep in mind, Tylenol WILL kill you if you abuse it. Pain killers, alcohol, even vitamins will kill you if you take too much. Yet Jesus' first miracle was to make good wine from water. So obviously some mind altering chemicals aren't bad in God's eyes (unless you abuse them).
 
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Marijuana needs to be made legal. However, it would be most appropriate to make it into a prescription or behind-the-counter drug. There are medical and theraputic benifits in marijuana, and people who are ill should be able to have legal access to them.

There are side effects to all legal drugs on the market today. Marijuana's side effects are not any worse than the majority of drugs out there. So why is not being made legal? I just don't get it!
 
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The difference is over the counter drugs have labels and have been tested by the FDA.

To tell you honestly, I wish they would make tobacco and alcohol illegal. That would make such an uproar though. There are people who will say that making such things illegal is wrong, because some people enjoy it, but the bad far outweighs the good.

There are side effects to all legal drugs on the market today. Marijuana's side effects are not any worse than the majority of drugs out there. So why is not being made legal? I just don't get it!

If it can be used to help some disease or ailment, then yeah, it should be made into a prescription. I would like to think that there is a better way to receive any benefit Marijuana has medically, in a pill form. Smoking it can still be dangerous.
 
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