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[truthpls]

Israel ready for ‘any scenario’ with Iran – defense minister​

Israel ready for ‘any scenario’ with Iran – defense minister

The Israel defense system is fully prepared for a potential attack from Iran, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant has announced

www.rt.com

Since the sovereign territory of Iran (consulate) was bombed, one can only assume the desired outcome was escalation.

 

[AlexB23]

Israel ready for ‘any scenario’ with Iran – defense minister​

Israel ready for ‘any scenario’ with Iran – defense minister

The Israel defense system is fully prepared for a potential attack from Iran, Defense Minister Yoav Gallant has announced

www.rt.com

Since the sovereign territory of Iran (consulate) was bombed, one can only assume the desired outcome was escalation.

I see that the article is by Russia Today. I would like to read it, but I have doubts about trusting a Russian state-owned news source, in light of the Russo-Ukrainian war and Putin's ideologies.

This is a long journal that explains the potential risks of using RT as a news source: https://ora.ox.ac.uk/objects/uuid:140663c1-7856-4f9b-9e19-cde93be7e340/files/rf7623c77x


And here is a basic summary of that journal (journal was published in 2020):

RT, also known as Russia Today, is a Russian state-funded international television network that broadcasts news and documentaries in English, Arabic, Spanish, German, and French. While it presents itself as an alternative perspective on global news, there are several reasons why RT is not considered a reliable news source, especially in the context of relatively recent events (from the 2010s up through COVID-19 in 2020).

1. Propaganda and disinformation: RT has been accused of spreading propaganda and disinformation on various issues, particularly those that are politically sensitive or beneficial to Russia. For instance, during the 2014 Ukrainian crisis, RT's coverage was criticized for promoting Russian propaganda and justifying Moscow's annexation of Crimea. Similarly, during the 2016 US presidential election, RT was found to have interfered in the campaign by disseminating fake news and propaganda.

2. Lack of transparency: RT's ownership and funding by the Russian government raise concerns about its impartiality and independence. The network does not disclose the sources of its funding or provide clear information on its editorial policies. This lack of transparency makes it difficult for audiences to evaluate the credibility and accuracy of RT's reporting.

3. Biased coverage: RT's news coverage is often biased, favoring Russian perspectives on international events and ignoring or downplaying negative stories about Russia. For example, during the Syrian civil war, RT presented a pro-Assad narrative, focusing on the alleged atrocities committed by rebel forces while minimizing or ignoring the human rights abuses and war crimes perpetrated by the Assad regime.

4. Inaccurate reporting: RT has a history of inaccurate reporting, which can be attributed to its lack of fact-checking and reliance on unreliable sources. For instance, during the COVID-19 pandemic, RT spread misinformation about the origins and impact of the virus, citing unverified sources or conspiracy theories.

5. Agenda-driven reporting: RT's reporting is often driven by political agendas, with the network using news stories to promote Russian interests or to undermine those of its perceived enemies. For example, during the 2014 protests in Ukraine, RT presented the events as a Western-backed coup against an elected government, despite ample evidence to the contrary.

In conclusion, RT's lack of transparency, biased coverage, inaccurate reporting, and promotion of propaganda and disinformation make it an unreliable news source. Its close ties to the Russian government further undermine its credibility and impartiality.

 

[truthpls]

In conclusion, RT's lack of transparency, biased coverage, inaccurate reporting, and promotion of propaganda and disinformation make it an unreliable news source. Its close ties to the Russian government further undermine its credibility and impartiality.

The same is true of the major media of Canada and the USA. So rather than take a position that we should swallow it all wholesale, I take all news with a grain of salt and open eyes. The facts about Israel attacking the consulate are found in many news sources. The fact that a retaliation is very much expected is also well known and not a feature of RT. So addressing the topic is a wiser choice here than harping on individual news sources.

 

[AlexB23]

The same is true of the major media of Canada and the USA. So rather than take a position that we should swallow it all wholesale, I take all news with a grain of salt and open eyes. The facts about Israel attacking the consulate are found in many news sources. The fact that a retaliation is very much expected is also well known and not a feature of RT. So addressing the topic is a wiser choice here than harping on individual news sources.

I am sorry about that, I will see if the BBC has something on this, or the Guardian. But yeah, Israel should have never attacked the consulate.

Here is the British Broadcasting Company's report on the attack: Iran accuses Israel of killing generals in Syria strike

 

[truthpls]

I am sorry about that, I will see if the BBC has something on this, or the Guardian. But yeah, Israel should have never attacked the consulate.

Here is the British Broadcasting Company's report on the attack: Iran accuses Israel of killing generals in Syria strike

Right, I don't think anyone could say it was an accident. The motive seems clear.

 

[AlexB23]

Right, I don't think anyone could say it was an accident. The motive seems clear.

Yep. The motive is to incite war.

 

[truthpls]

Yep. The motive is to incite war.

Pretty wicked. A major world war these days comes with consequences.

 

[AlexB23]

Pretty wicked. A major world war these days comes with consequences.

Yeah, it seems that the Israelis want to have people back them up on this war, when in reality, no side should be fighting.

 

[truthpls]

Yeah, it seems that the Israelis want to have people back them up on this war, when in reality, no side should be fighting.

If they must fight, do so against their enemies, not women and children, aid workers, and acts of provocation to embroil the world in their mess

 

[AlexB23]

If they must fight, do so against their enemies, not women and children, aid workers, and acts of provocation to embroil the world in their mess

Agreed. Israel and Palestine should take the fight far away from innocents.

 

[truthpls]

Agreed. Israel and Palestine should take the fight far away from innocents.

Since they are a virtual prison camp (not to mention being starved etc) it might be hard to take things anywhere.

 

[AlexB23]

Since they are a virtual prison camp (not to mention being starved etc) it might be hard to take things anywhere.

So sad. We should take the leader of Israel, and the leader of Hamas to Geneva and have the two play a game of rock-paper-scissors*. The winner wins, and the fighting stops.

*If only everything worked out this easily

 

[DavidTheGnome]

So sad. We should take the leader of Israel, and the leader of Hamas to Geneva and have the two play a game of rock-paper-scissors*. The winner wins, and the fighting stops.

*If only everything worked out this easily

What does the winner get?

 

[AlexB23]

What does the winner get?

I am not sure, the winner gets to have the wall between Israel and Palestine torn down. So, both countries can enjoy free trade.

 

[truthpls]

So sad. We should take the leader of Israel, and the leader of Hamas to Geneva and have the two play a game of rock-paper-scissors*. The winner wins, and the fighting stops.

*If only everything worked out this easily

We would no more expect Israel to surrender than Hamas. It looks like the UN might need to step in or something, some group of nations. It is criminal what is happening. (Though I suspect that it will take Israel using nukes first to provoke some nations into moving in there to keep the peace)

 

[AlexB23]

We would no more expect Israel to surrender than Hamas. It looks like the UN might need to step in or something, some group of nations. It is criminal what is happening. (Though I suspect that it will take Israel using nukes first to provoke some nations into moving in there to keep the peace)

Agreed. It is time for the UN to step in, before nukes and other weapons are used. Glad I don't live in the Middle East.

 

[truthpls]

Agreed. It is time for the UN to step in, before nukes and other weapons are used. Glad I don't live in the Middle East.

The problem is that when some nukes are used, one cannot limit it to the mid east any more. I agree that major nations should step in and force a peace and stop the starvation and genocide and etc. However, knowing human nature, people tend to only act when it is in their own interests. Once Israel uses a nuke or two, it becomes in everyone's interest to defang them.

 

[AlexB23]

The problem is that when some nukes are used, one cannot limit it to the mid east any more. I agree that major nations should step in and force a peace and stop the starvation and genocide and etc. However, knowing human nature, people tend to only act when it is in their own interests. Once Israel uses a nuke or two, it becomes in everyone's interest to defang them.

If Israel uses a nuke, WWIII will start. But hey, there is nothing you or I can do to stop the war. We as a world should find a way of evacuating the innocent women, men and children out of Palestine. Then, after a few years, these people can become productive members of society. For Hamas, once everyone is evacuated, Hamas would die out, as there would be no people left for them to brainwash.

 

[truthpls]

If Israel uses a nuke, WWIII will start. But hey, there is nothing you or I can do to stop the war. We as a world should find a way of evacuating the innocent women, men and children out of Palestine. Then, after a few years, these people can become productive members of society. For Hamas, once everyone is evacuated, Hamas would die out, as there would be no people left for them to brainwash.

You might be and are even likely correct. However, prophesy tells us Damascus will be laid ruin in the end. Totally devoid of life. That sounds suspicious. We also are told that all nations would surround Israel. I used to wonder why. Most preachers seem to say it will be because of some demonic possession and spiritual hatred of Jews. It actually could be because they were a danger to the world.

 

[AlexB23]

You might be and are even likely correct. However, prophesy tells us Damascus will be laid ruin in the end. Totally devoid of life. That sounds suspicious. We also are told that all nations would surround Israel. I used to wonder why. Most preachers seem to say it will be because of some demonic possession and spiritual hatred of Jews. It actually could be because they were a danger to the world.

I think the whole Middle East is under the control of some forces that are unseen. Greed may also play a part. Also, neither the Muslims or the Jews accept Jesus as Savior, so the groups might be more likely to be influenced by worldly desires.