Don't Boycott - A message from a non-Catholic

[Longing4Home]

Some of you will recognize this as message number 75 in the "How about a boycott" thread, but I thought I would enter it as a new topic so as to have more of you see it.
Glen

Hey .... some of us non-Catholic's are going to miss you guys, and gals. Even though we differ on some of our beliefs, as far as I am concerned, we are still all brothers and sisters in Christ. Our beliefs will be judged by Christ Himself and I believe He will be true and just and I put my life in His hands, as I am sure you do also.
Yes GT is a cesspool sometimes. And yes there are those that will hate you, ridicule you, snub you, argue with you, call you names.... sounds a bit like what Jesus went through doesn't it. ("And you will be hated for my namesake" also comes to mind).
But please remember, that is not the way we all feel. Besides Christ never boycotted the pharisees, he took them head on. I look forward to your return should you boycott. Many a truthful word has been uttered by, dare I say, a Catholic in the GT forum and I bet it has more of an impact than you suspect.

In love, and more importantly in Christ,
Glen

 

[WarriorAngel]

I dont get in there much, and you probably dont know me..but I wanted to say that is a very sweet sentiment.

 

[joyfulthanks]

Dear Friends,

I found out over in TAW that you some of you guys have decided to boycott GT. I understand your reasons, but for those of you who haven't yet made a commitment to do so, I'd like to ask you to consider something.

I, too, got sick of GT and tried a different approach. Some of you have seen the GT Christmas Season Cease-Fire Thread. It's a place for Christians of every stripe to come together and celebrate the nativity of our Lord. No debating allowed. Only posts of encouragement, blessing, and goodwill. It's up to over a hundred posts now, and some of you have posted there (before the boycott started).

We need you in that thread. We need to hear about your love for Christ, and the joy that you have in celebrating His birth. If you want to boycott GT, please consider boycotting all of it except the Christmas Cease-Fire thread. We need all the goodwill we can get in GT. And we need people to set an example of love and brotherly kindness.

If you don't want to be tempted by browsing in GT, you can find it here: http://www.christianforums.com/t235...ire-thread.html

Of course, I don't want anyone to violate their conscience or be untrue to their word by going there, so please do what you need to do. This message is really for those who haven't yet agreed to the boycott.

Thanks for considering...

Blessed Advent!

With love in Christ,
Grace

 

[xristos.anesti]

GT is a dangerous and blasphemous place.

It is such, not for different revelations and beliefs that we, Christians, hold, nor for different creeds... but fot total lack of love and charity.

It is a crushing pressure of inhuman and unChristian relation and argument that persist in that forum.

We may never agree,

we may never see the same,

but we don't have to be demonic about it.

And GT, as far as I am concerned, is demonic.


One can always say that we are leaving for we have been beaten.

Beaten?

Try 2000 years of prosecution, killings, rapes, forcefull islamisation, communism...

We beaten?

Have a look at St. Peter's square?

Have a look at Moscow?

Beaten?

Never...

We just choose charity over hate,

love and prayer over argument...

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

I haven't decided to boycott GH, and I don't think I will. However, I think I will try my best not to repeat myself. I get thoroughly fed up and angry when people have absolutely no desire whatsoever to understand your beliefs, with the arrogant who assume that they, and not the millions of adherents of a Faith, know what the faith is about. It isn't just something done in attack of Catholics, but in the attacks on Protestants. So I'll be comitted to plainly stating the Truth as it is and the reasons for believing it, but arguing with ignorant, pretentious liars is about as productive as hitting your head against the wall.

 

[Servus Iesu]

I haven't decided to boycott GH, and I don't think I will. However, I think I will try my best not to repeat myself. I get thoroughly fed up and angry when people have absolutely no desire whatsoever to understand your beliefs, with the arrogant who assume that they, and not the millions of adherents of a Faith, know what the faith is about. It isn't just something done in attack of Catholics, but in the attacks on Protestants. So I'll be comitted to plainly stating the Truth as it is and the reasons for believing it, but arguing with ignorant, pretentious liars is about as productive as hitting your head against the wall.

Then you will get thoroughly fed up and angry whenever you enter GT...

 

[Skripper]

It all boils down to authority, much of the time. In GT many, if not most of the non-Catholic/non-EO posters reject any authority outside of themselves and their own personal biblical interpretations. And therein lies the problem, usually. Basically, it's a pride issue. Though most who succumb to it wouldn't recognize it as such.

 

[Robbie_James_Francis]

Then you will get thoroughly fed up and angry whenever you enter GT...

Yep...but if I just state the Truth and leave it at that I won't have to get into the whole...

"You believe this"
"No, I don't"
"But your Church teahces it"
"No, She doesn't"
"Yes, it does"
"How do you know?"
"Because you do this"
"So you know more about my Faith than me, my congregation, OBOB, my priest, the pope, the Magisterium and the Sacred Councils?"
"Yes"

 

[Servus Iesu]

It all boils down to authority, much of the time. In GT many, if not most of the non-Catholic/non-EO posters reject any authority outside of themselves and their own personal biblical interpretations. And therein lies the problem, usually. Basically, it's a pride issue. Though most who succumb to it wouldn't recognize it as such.

I also think we as Catholics can become prideful in trying to counter the 'pride' of others. I know I have. Do we really go to GT for our own spiritual health or that of anyone else? If not then why go? Cutting loose of that has been good for me and I think it will be good for any of my fellow Catholics who do the same.

If people want to explore Catholicism on CF they will come to OBOB. No good can come from trolling for battles over in that hideous forum. It only encourages the crazies. Each one tries to out do the other in outsmarting the beast of babylon.

 

[Isaiah 53]

I post regularly in GT and have no plans of leaving. I feel that, although the arguments are always the same, it can be beneficial. If we were not there to set the record straight, then those who live in ignorance and hate will have their way. Strong Catholics, like the one's found here, should be there. IMHO...

PAX CHRISTI

 

[Skripper]

I also think we as Catholics can become prideful in trying to counter the 'pride' of others. I know I have. Do we really go to GT for our own spiritual health or that of anyone else? If not then why go? Cutting loose of that has been good for me and I think it will be good for any of my fellow Catholics who do the same.

If people want to explore Catholicism on CF they will come to OBOB. No good can come from trolling for battles over in that hideous forum. It only encourages the crazies. Each one tries to out do the other in outsmarting the beast of babylon.

Oh, no doubt that everyone, Catholics included, can fall victim to pride. Yet pride is sort of an "individual" thing, if you know what I mean. And, theologically speaking anyway, the faithful Catholic would (or at least should) present the Church's teaching . . . and not necessarily his/her own personal theological opinions. In doing so he/she, in a sense anyway, sort of "removes" themself (along with their prideful ego) from the equation and defers to the Church as the final arbiter of what is and isn't correct Christian doctrine. This simply isn't the case within Protestantism, which has no central authority for such things. Instead each individual believer is sort of left to fend for themselves, with Bible on knee, to decide for themselves what is and isn't correct Christian doctrine. Of course, many will refer to certain theologians, past and present, when they personally agree with them. If they don't agree with them, they rely on themselves instead. So while Catholics aren't immune to pride, by any stretch, it is much less likely to be a factor in the Catholic system, when the Catholic system is properly adhered to since, unlike the Protestant system, the individual believer is not the final authority.

 

[WarriorAngel]

I am trying to fight pride...

I asked my priest what the difference between boasting in Christ and being prideful in ways of debating my faith.

He didnt know there was a difference and couldnt tell me. He is human. So I am still at an impasse on how much is pride and how much is standing up for what is Truth.

Cos I dunno.

 

[Michie]

GT is a dangerous and blasphemous place.

It is such, not for different revelations and beliefs that we, Christians, hold, nor for different creeds... but fot total lack of love and charity.

It is a crushing pressure of inhuman and unChristian relation and argument that persist in that forum.

We may never agree,

we may never see the same,

but we don't have to be demonic about it.

And GT, as far as I am concerned, is demonic.


One can always say that we are leaving for we have been beaten.

Beaten?

Try 2000 years of prosecution, killings, rapes, forcefull islamisation, communism...

We beaten?

Have a look at St. Peter's square?

Have a look at Moscow?

Beaten?

Never...

We just choose charity over hate,

love and prayer over argument...

That was a fabulous post.

 

[Michie]

I think if we would do more edification of brother & sisters in Christ. Discuss Scripture & worship in a way that will edify one another it would be more pleasing to the Lord.

We forget that it is God Who saves & sends the Holy Spirit. Not us.

We are just workers in the field & the Master will harvest.

Seeds we plant should be the truth in love.

Jesus did not tell us to dust our feet for nothing. Titus states that there are things we should not argue.

The Holy Spirit leads us where He wants us to go. And that includes truth about our brethern.

Seeds mostly planted in GT are seeds of pride & division & Jesus Christ is completely lost in the mix.

There is judgement & hatred of brethern there. Sarcasm, etc.

Those are the seeds planted. I personally want nothing to do with it. Those are not the seeds that bring harvest but just the opposite.

I think Satan loves that forum. He knows Scripture better than any of us & I'm sure he finds it quite pleasing to see us rip each other apart with God's Word.

It's the 'my way or the highway' forum. Lets not discuss our common faith in Jesus Christ, lets talk about our disagreements & commence to judging.

Blech.

 

[WarriorAngel]

I want to confess...I tried my best, but since I got into the ONE debate...I felt like i had to finish it.

AND I also admit I felt badly when I gave it right back...and that happens to me al the time.

I say it, then feel badly.

But I think I would feel worse if I remained silent...not sure tho.
I just had to stop the following of one guy's attempt to attack.

Ok, I just wanted everyone to know...I didnt fare well with my resistance.

Altho, that section is completely new to me...

Oy, I am still invisible, and no one notices. LOL. So I am going to keep posting just because I want to stand up and have our Church heard.

God please enlighten me to do Your Church, to do Your Word justice...please enlighten me, so I do not error, and that you aid me while I speak on Your gifts. Amen!