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Donating to PETA is wrong

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Dream

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2418 It is contrary to human dignity to cause animals to suffer or die needlessly. It is likewise unworthy to spend money on them that should as a priority go to the relief of human misery. One can love animals; one should not direct to them the affection due only to persons.



We should first take care of the people on this Earth, the creatures that were made in God's creation and have souls, then we should worry about animals.
 

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Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

This likens the death of an animal to that of a man. If withholding money from a humane society when you have the chance to give means animals will be put to death, I think this applies.

Granted, I do NOT agree with PETA, as it seems to me they wouldn't mind the loss of several human lives in exchange for that of an animal's - but humane societies are a different story.

It's my policy to donate to ANY charity organization that comes available to me while I'm out and about - if they are in need of money, animal or human, I give it. If I'm in a restaurant and their is a collection bowl for humane societies, I'm not going to then say that's wrong and go out searching for a restaurant where I can donate to a human cause. I'm going to give money to the humane society. If there is a collection bowl for something like Habitat for Humanity, then I will donate to that.
 
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DreamTheater said:
There's a group called "People Eating Tasty Animals." ^_^

http://mtd.com/tasty/

They used to be at peta.org, until the other PETA sued them.

I think there's a reason God made animals out of meat.
 
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InnerPhyre said:
Animals are delcious. Every time I see a PETA add, I go eat an animal that I wasn't going to eat otherwise :)

Amen!

I put animals out of their misery by eating them.

Where I'm from if we didn't hunt the deer, they would over-populate and many of them would starve.

And I love venison and a pint of Guinness. :thumbsup:
 
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MagicalMerriment said:
Isaiah 66:3 He that killeth an ox is as if he slew a man; he that sacrificeth a lamb, as if he cut off a dog's neck; he that offereth an oblation, as if he offered swine's blood; he that burneth incense, as if he blessed an idol. Yea, they have chosen their own ways, and their soul delighteth in their abominations.

This likens the death of an animal to that of a man.

Did you read that in context? Its showing that these thoughts are disordered. Killing an Ox is NOT equal to killing a man, and Sacrificing a Lamb is NOT equal to cuting off a dogs neck. But people have ignored God, and chosen their own ways.. drawing these false connections as if to say that killing an Ox is the same as killing a man, or sacrificing a Lamb is the same as cutting a dog's neck.
 
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geocajun said:
Did you read that in context? Its showing that these thoughts are disordered. Killing an Ox is NOT equal to killing a man, and Sacrificing a Lamb is NOT equal to cuting off a dogs neck. But people have ignored God, and chosen their own ways.. drawing these false connections as if to say that killing an Ox is the same as killing a man, or sacrificing a Lamb is the same as cutting a dog's neck.

Yes. I actually find the Good News version much easier to understand:

"The people do as they please. It's all the same to them whether they kill a bull as a sacrifice or sacrifice a human being; whether they sacrifice a lamb or break a dog's neck; whether they present a grain offering or offer pigs' blood; whether they offer incense or pray to an idol. They take pleasure in disgusting ways of worship." (Isaiah 66:3)
 
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geocajun said:
I read a quote once somewhere which read "I am not a vegetarian because I love animals. I am one because I hate plants!"

Lol!

The thing that gets me about groups like PETA is that they fail to see the food chain in nature. Why is ok for wild animals to eat other animals, often in an extremely brutal fashion, but it's murder for me to eat a steak?

Also, anybody ever notice how these groups only work to protect the cute animals? Never have I seen a ralley to protect the stink beetle.
 
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DreamTheater said:
Lol!

The thing that gets me about groups like PETA is that they fail to see the food chain in nature. Why is ok for wild animals to eat other animals, often in an extremely brutal fashion, but it's murder for me to eat a steak?QUOTE]


I could not agree more! A lady asked me one time how I could shoot that poor deer, that it was so cruel! I told her that if she wants to see cruel, then watch National Geographic sometime and see how one animal kills another one...very cruel and prolonged.. and usually after repeated failures to which they injured the animal but it got away. She replied that thats different, because thats nature.. Well what else could I say except for Ma'am, humans are not exactly from Mars, were as much a part of nature as all the animals are.

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I'm not a PETA supporter at all. I think they are rather extremist. However, I am troubled with how we treat animals in this country. I eat meat, but I try and get free range chickens when I can. I raise my own laying chickens or buy free range eggs when they are laying well (like now in mid-winter). I even bought a side of beef this year from a local small time beef raiser.

I think the conditions in factory farms are atrocious, particularly for hogs and poultry. Cattle have it better because they live most of their lives grazing.

Also, I don't understand this need to mock animal rights people. Yes, abortion is a worse wrong, but that doesn't mean that we should treat animals any old way. Because of how removed we are from farming, we don't see the suffering first hand, but it is immoral, in my opinion, to mistreat animals. In the Bible, a man was supposed to also rest his animals on the Sabbath. I think this indicates that we have a responsiblity to the beasts of the fields and we shouldn't abuse them. But, the factory farm system is basically inhumane.

I'd like to see more laws to protect animals raised for meat. Also, laboratory animals deserve fair treatment for the service they provide to the human race.
 
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