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<blockquote data-quote="Rion" data-source="post: 71352926" data-attributes="member: 166965"><p>You could try reading both links, and what I posted.</p><p></p><p>me: "The first one was from a FOIA request which shows that in 2012 the Obama administration predicted and welcomed the rise of a group such as ISIS from the rebels that they were supporting"</p><p></p><p><em>A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p><em>Which is pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria.</em></p><p><em></em></p><p>The second is rather self-explanatory.</p><p></p><p>As for the Iran-Contra bit, maybe you could read the part at the beginning of the first link:</p><p></p><p><em>That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.</em></p><p></p><p>I hope that you're no longer confused. <img src="/styles/default/xenforo/smilies/old/onion/congrat.gif" class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":congrat:" title="congrat :congrat:" data-shortname=":congrat:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Rion, post: 71352926, member: 166965"] You could try reading both links, and what I posted. me: "The first one was from a FOIA request which shows that in 2012 the Obama administration predicted and welcomed the rise of a group such as ISIS from the rebels that they were supporting" [I]A revealing light on how we got here has now been shone by a recently declassified secret US intelligence report, written in August 2012, which uncannily predicts – and effectively welcomes – the prospect of a “Salafist principality” in eastern Syria and an al-Qaida-controlled Islamic state in Syria and Iraq. In stark contrast to western claims at the time, the Defense Intelligence Agency document identifies al-Qaida in Iraq (which became Isis) and fellow Salafists as the “major forces driving the insurgency in Syria” – and states that “western countries, the Gulf states and Turkey” were supporting the opposition’s efforts to take control of eastern Syria. Raising the “possibility of establishing a declared or undeclared Salafist principality”, the Pentagon report goes on, “this is exactly what the supporting powers to the opposition want, in order to isolate the Syrian regime, which is considered the strategic depth of the Shia expansion (Iraq and Iran)”. Which is pretty well exactly what happened two years later. The report isn’t a policy document. It’s heavily redacted and there are ambiguities in the language. But the implications are clear enough. A year into the Syrian rebellion, the US and its allies weren’t only supporting and arming an opposition they knew to be dominated by extreme sectarian groups; they were prepared to countenance the creation of some sort of “Islamic state” – despite the “grave danger” to Iraq’s unity – as a Sunni buffer to weaken Syria. [/I] The second is rather self-explanatory. As for the Iran-Contra bit, maybe you could read the part at the beginning of the first link: [I]That didn’t only include the “non-lethal assistance” boasted of by the government (including body armour and military vehicles), but training, logistical support and the secret supply of “arms on a massive scale”. Reports were cited that MI6 had cooperated with the CIA on a “rat line” of arms transfers from Libyan stockpiles to the Syrian rebels in 2012 after the fall of the Gaddafi regime.[/I] I hope that you're no longer confused. :congrat: [/QUOTE]
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