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Does the Universe have a end????

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lamblion said:
God created the universe limitless, with no end.
Is their Really no end in space. If so their has to be other life. Why would God create a universe with no end just to be empty!!! :confused: :scratch:

Why do you think the universe has no end. Do you think the universe is eternal?
 
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Forest said:
Why do you think the universe has no end. Do you think the universe is eternal?
It has been scientiflly proven that space has no end. scientist have sent rockets into space many, many years ago that have never returned!!

No i don't think space is Eternal, because Eternal implies no beginning nor end. Only God is Eternal, and the Church by the gift of salvation. the universe is Everlating, meaning it has a beginning but no end, with it's beginning being God creating it
 
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lamblion said:
It has been scientiflly proven that space has no end. scientist have sent rockets into space many, many years ago that have never returned!!

Are you serious here or playing a joke? I must admit when it comes to a science point on CF it is hard to tell.
 
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KerrMetric said:
Are you serious here or playing a joke? I must admit when it comes to a science point on CF it is hard to tell.
No, I am very serious. When science improves are finds something in which it can't understand, it is God trying to reveal himself through Nature are the things he has made.
Rom- 1:20 " For the invisible things of him(God) from the creation of the World are crealy seen, being understood by the things that are made, even is Eternal power and Godhead(trinity); so they are without excuse:"
Psalms-19:1 : "the heavens declare the glory of God; and the Firmament showeth his handywork."

The problem with many Christains today is they refuse to understand science, werein God is the definition of science. He created it. One of his attributes is Omniscience, which means ALL science. Scientist should be the greatest believers because they study the very thing God has created.
 
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If you send an object out into space going significantly less than the speed of light, you can't expect it to get all that far in a matter of several decades, let along traverse the entirety of the universe and return back to earth. Plus, who's to say that it would come directly back to earth even if it did make a complete trip through the universe?

I think that it may be quite likely that the universe is "endless", yet finite, similar to how the surface of a beach ball is "endless", yet it is finite in surface area. Just add another dimension or eight.
 
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lamblion said:
God created the universe limitless, with no end.
Is their Really no end in space. If so their has to be other life. Why would God create a universe with no end just to be empty!!! :confused: :scratch:



Ok this is an infinate God right, so why would he need to create an end. I don't think there is a need to have an end or even a set beginning. Aren't we focusing on the wrong thing. I don't think we are suppose to explain God. That is for him to do. If there is an end out there, it may not be time for us to find it. He will reveal himself to us, I am guessing, on a need to know basis. :idea:

I think that goes along with whether or not there is life out there. If there is we will find it when God is ready for us too. With the universe being as big as we think odds are there is somehthing else out there. My question is why do we always figure the others out there are more advanced. :confused:

I guess one day we will find out.
 
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icbeckyc said:
Ok this is an infinate God right, so why would he need to create an end. I don't think there is a need to have an end or even a set beginning. Aren't we focusing on the wrong thing. I don't think we are suppose to explain God. That is for him to do. If there is an end out there, it may not be time for us to find it. He will reveal himself to us, I am guessing, on a need to know basis. :idea:

I think that goes along with whether or not there is life out there. If there is we will find it when God is ready for us too. With the universe being as big as we think odds are there is somehthing else out there. My question is why do we always figure the others out there are more advanced. :confused:

I guess one day we will find out.
Scientist have rencently found the potentail for life on Saturn, I don't know the entire story but check it out on Nasa.
But anyway the government has many things we no nothing about. In a ad a read one said that they have reversed Alien technology they found in ships that were dicovered years ago. Knowlege will continue to incease forever
(Daniel-12:4)

And about explaining God, It is possible to expain, and know him to a certain extent, for he has made it known in nature( the things that he has made)
God is a trinity
Water is a trinity(has three forms)
light is a trinity(has three forms)
 
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lamblion said:
Scientist have rencently found life on Saturn, I don't know the entire story but check it out on Nasa.


You are very uninformed. That would be the biggest discovery in recorded history and I think it might make every news broadcast for a month.

The recent Saturn related story was the water geysers on Enceladus (one of Saturns satellites.)
 
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Water has three forms because the two elements that make it up (H20 two parts hydrogen one part oxygen) have three forms.
Gas, liquid and solid.

But all of the elements to my limited knowledge have three forms but only under the right circumstances.

As for the other stuff I'm pretty sure that information is incorrect. Well except the trinity part.

God bless!
Raist
 
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Raistlinorr said:
Water has three forms because the two elements that make it up (H20 two parts hydrogen one part oxygen) have three forms.
Gas, liquid and solid.t

That is not correct. The physical properties of water have nothing to do with the physical properties of the constituent elements.
 
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KerrMetric said:
You are very uninformed. That would be the biggest discovery in recorded history and I think it might make every news broadcast for a month.

The recent Saturn related story was the water geysers on Enceladus (one of Saturns satellites.)
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Im sorry it was a typo, I ment to say it has the potenial of life because of the new discovery.
 
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lamblion said:
Im sorry it was a typo, I ment to say it has the potenial of life because of the new discovery.

Yes that inference is made but it is at best an inference. Personally I would doubt it for several reasons.
 
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lamblion said:
But if it was it would not be head news, the government doesn't work that way. They hold so much from us its rediculous.

Which government. This would be worldwide news. What one or two governements do is immaterial.

Also if thy hold so much from us how do you know this? Since you just said it is held from us how did you get in on it?
 
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*blinks* Wow. Uninformed, plain and simple. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that current thought is that the universe is finite, and expanding. Sending rockets a few decades ago is completely irrelevant. Also, comparing the Trinity to light or water is modalist heresy.
 
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Melethiel said:
*blinks* Wow. Uninformed, plain and simple. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that current thought is that the universe is finite, and expanding. Sending rockets a few decades ago is completely irrelevant. Also, comparing the Trinity to light or water is modalist heresy.

Expanding Yes. Finite or Infinite is currently not known. But yes I said the Wow as well about the rocket comment.
 
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lamblion said:
God is a trinity
Water is a trinity(has three forms)
light is a trinity(has three forms)

In a sense, but those things are not a Trinity in the same sense that God is a trinity. Water and light are more analagous to a modalistic view of God that the triune one revealed in scripture.
 
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