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They are elected. and that still holds in their continued bold support. There is no need for an election to know that.It’s quite relevant if one is calling them elected representatives when no such elections are held.
They are elected. and that still holds in their continued bold support.
There is to claim they’re the elected representatives of Gaza.There is no need for an election to know that.
So what? I am not blind or deaf, nor am I stupid. They support them. I have heard them, have seen them. My eyes and my ears are not lying to me, nor others. It is not a mass hallucinationWere elected, almost 20 years ago,
So what?
What hasn’t been heard or seen is an election in Gaza after hamas came to power.I am not blind or deaf, nor am I stupid. They support them. I have heard them, have seen them. My eyes and my ears are not lying to me, nor others. It is not a mass hallucination
So what? When and how they hold elections is up to them, not you.So they stopped having elections after that.
Came into power is "ELECTED" to power.What hasn’t been heard or seen is an election in Gaza after hamas came to power.
So what?
The election was two decades ago and at that time, the majority did not vote for Hamas. Not long after that election, Hamas forced its rule on the people of Gaza outside of the political process. They were not elected to power, they took Gaza by force.Came into power is "ELECTED" to power.
Palestinians in Gaza live in an environment where turning against Hamas could pose significant risks to their lives, livelihoods, and families. They allow Hamas to operate in Gaza mostly because they are afraid that if they refuse, they will be its next victims. Another reason is that most Palestinians in Gaza are too busy struggling to survive from day to day to concern themselves with Hamas. They have enough problems already.So what? I am not blind or deaf, nor am I stupid. They support them. I have heard them, have seen them. My eyes and my ears are not lying to me, nor others. It is not a mass hallucination
Dictatorships aren’t really into that kind of thing.Are you writing Palestinian election law here. LOL
We buy things from and support Israel just like we do in other countries...At full price like any other customer after subsidizing their development and funding the country in general. What a deal.
Why are you picking on Israel...we do the same in other countries. BTW, how much money and weapons did Biden give Ukraine??? Other countries DO buy weapons from us.Right, my point was that it doesn't represent some sort of two-way partnership that would even be remotely close to symmetrical.
"We use some stuff that a citizen of country XYZ developed" isn't representative of the kind of partnership we're talking about.
We use some stuff that was made by residents of Italy, that doesn't mean we'd spend $30B per decade and unconditionally help the Italian government chase their enemies around the desert for 40 years.
What specific things has the government of Israel given the government of the US that would be a counterbalance to what the government of the US has given to the government of Israel?
As I noted, I'm not even suggesting denying weapons to Israel, my initial statement was that should buy that stuff from us with their own money.
When we develop something cool with our own R&D budget, we give it to them for free. When they develop something with the R&D money we give them, they make us pay retail.
While the quote might be accurate - it does not mean it is a justified reading of the Koran - which was my main point.Because AIPAC has been effective in their lobbying.
I fact checked the Hitchens claim, it's legit, both in the numbers of slaves the Barbary Corsairs took, as well as their ambassadors justification for why they did it.
In March 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams went to London to negotiate with Tripoli's envoy, ambassador Sidi Haji Abdrahaman (or Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja). When they enquired "concerning the ground of the pretensions to take slaves from, and make war upon, nations who had done them no injury", the ambassador replied:
That may also be the case - but also does not explain why America helped overthrow the Iranian democracy - nor the fact that at the time the population had huge issues with being ruled by a monarchy after having experienced democracy. Which has parallels with the "No Kings" marches in the USA recently - but I digress.I actually touched on this in another recent thread, I can dig up all of the posts or link their here if you're interested...but the Iranians actually saw more prosperity, greater social equality, the fastest growing middle class in the region, and more oil revenue from their oil and more personal freedoms under the Shah than they did under the predecessors. (net, of course... there were obviously some freedoms the Shah did restrict) Hence the reason during the 2017 and 2022 mass protests in Iran, the common chant was "Shah, Bless your soul".
(I also linked a piece by a Nobel Peace Prize winner who was the first Female judge in Iran - which happened under the Shah - who had it taken away by the Ayatollah, who notes that people were so obsessed with the "thrill of revolution" that they weren't thinking straight, and she apologized to the current generation for her generation's part in overthrowing the Shah to make way for the system they're stuck with now)
If you're interested, I can link the thread...
And I would agree that the causes of the war fall under "Just War" theory.Here's the problem. The actions of the Israeli government was self defense. They protested all over the place, for the destruction of Israel. Doing so while Hamas was still holding hostages. American as well as Israeli hostages. They are still not giving them up.
What a fascinating revisionist history! It's hard to run an economy when you've been illegally displaced from your land, half your grandparents slaughtered by Israeli settlers, and then you're shoved into a confined area that is basically the world's largest open-air jail.It is not intended as trolling, but rather to demonstrate what is perceived as hypocrisy within the international community.
For 20 years, while Hamas controlled and oppressed the Palestinian people—impoverishing its people and launching rockets at Isreal—the world remained silent. There were no protests in London or on college campuses, and few expressed concern for the Palestinian people.
Suddenly, the world now cares about the Palestinian people.
The outcry today is nothing but crocodile tears.
Shouldn't your source for copy&pasting be attributed? This is posted as though it were your own word which would be plagiarizing.The U.S.–Israel alliance brings a wide range of strategic, economic, and technological benefits to the United States. Here’s a breakdown of how this partnership serves American interests:
️ Strategic & Military Cooperation
- Intelligence Sharing: Israel provides high-value intelligence on Middle Eastern threats, including terrorism and weapons proliferation.
- Defense Innovation: Joint development of systems like the Iron Dome and David’s Sling enhances U.S. missile defense capabilities.
- Military Testing Ground: Israel’s battlefield experience offers insights into modern warfare, helping the U.S. refine its own tactics and technologies.
- Forward Presence: Israel acts as a strategic outpost in a volatile region, allowing the U.S. to project power without deploying large numbers of troops.
Economic & Technological Gains
- Tech Collaboration: Israel’s thriving startup ecosystem—second only to Silicon Valley—drives innovation in cybersecurity, AI, and medical tech.
- Job Creation: Bilateral trade and Israeli investment in the U.S. support over 250,000 American jobs, especially in states like California and Massachusetts.
- Clean Energy & Sustainability: Israeli advances in water purification, solar energy, and agriculture contribute to U.S. environmental goals.
Cultural & Ideological Alignment
- Shared Democratic Values: Both nations emphasize pluralism, rule of law, and free elections, reinforcing mutual trust and cooperation.
- Public Support: Strong backing from American Jewish and Evangelical communities bolsters bipartisan political support for Israel.
Diplomatic Leverage
- Regional Stability: Israel’s peace treaties and growing ties with Arab states (e.g., Abraham Accords) help stabilize the Middle East.
- Counterterrorism: Israel’s experience in countering extremist groups complements U.S. efforts in global anti-terror operations.
How does one link AI?Shouldn't your source for copy&pasting be attributed? This is posted as though it were your own word which would be plagiarizing.
An AI response should still be cited even if forum rules don't require it. No link is necessary, you just need to state that the content was created using AI, and what platform was used.How does one link AI?
Not copy writes, so not against forum rules.
Why would you want to? I didn't say that you should link to your source, but attribute it. That is to say, cite your source, say where you got it instead of posting it as though it were your own words. This is pretty basic.How does one link AI?
Plagiarizing is against honesty rules which are entirely voluntary. What do you mean "copy writes"? That was clearly copy-pasted with the formatting included. Using others' work as your own without attribution, whether it is copyrighted or not, is still plagiary.Not copy writes, so not against forum rules.
Wrong about what?Sorry I proved you wrong, but the truth is the truth.
Hamas is still holding hostages, still endangering their people, by refusing to give them up and their tactics of warfare to use them as shields. There are no war crimes on Israels part. Just Hamas for refusing to give up on theirs.And I would agree that the causes of the war fall under "Just War" theory.
The conduct since does not!
They're committing war crimes - and it's time for actual freedom-loving democratic nations to tell Israel to stop!
Hamas is a terrorist group, that's to be expected.Hamas is still holding hostages, still endangering their people, by refusing to give them up and their tactics of warfare to use them as shields.
A Massive Database of Evidence, Compiled by a Historian, Documents Israel's War Crimes in GazaThere are no war crimes on Israels part.
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