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Does 'Goddidit' constitute an explanation?

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sk8Joyful

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Not every Christian lives PROlife, nor actively advocates it;
fortunately our family, friends, and businesses do.

how does this translate to atheists actually advocating abortion?
Too many atheists have been heard saying 'since we deny, that GOD, as Christ, lives... it's easy denying people should live too'. - Those thoughts too often then result in: abortions/infanticide, and other medical-murders, including doctor-assisted suicide, or euthanasia. - A majority of people find such atrocities more than a tad offensive; what about you Wedjat?

And what does our theological stance, have anything to do with our stance on abortions?
Answered above.

I didn't say some weren't pro-choice, but it's not like
'Hey, 4 out of 5 atheists recommend you abort your baby regardless of your situation, 'cause abortions are fun'.
I said EXACTLY what you claimed? Quote my statement.

Not, that doesn't happen, and frankly it's insulting that you should insinuate it.
Insinuations are 'your personal interpretations'; nothing more. - again, I said EXACTLY what you claimed? Quote my statement.

with doctor assisted suicide, these are people are in pain, who have terminal illness anyway, and who want to go, it is not common practice, it is not inhumane, they are not forced into it.
Millions of aborted-infants, plus millions of people like Terri Schiavo, did NOT have a 'terminal'-illness, did NOT want to go, but they are far more common than you realize; so it is INhumane, because they are FORCEd to die.

What are you on about? None of it is forced!
How many 'medical-specialties' have you worked in, Wedjat?

what in the world does any of this have to do with atheists!?! - It's blatantly offensive that you attribute these things to atheists.
Answered in my above 1st. response.

What, atheists generally have shredded souls to you?
again, I said EXACTLY 'shredded' as you claimed? Quote my statement.

Thank you.
 
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Too many atheists have been heard saying 'since we deny, that GOD, as Christ, lives... it's easy denying people should live too'.
HAHAHAHAHA! You know what? I'm done with you, have a nice life, I'm going to try out this spiffy 'ignore' button CF has.
 
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Dear Annie,

Could you maybe provide a link to support the claim that any athiest, anywhere, has ever said what you just said "too many of them have said"?
 
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So, care to explain the different dating in the synoptic gospels of the birth of Jesus.
So you claim the Bible to be an authoritative history but refuse to acknowledge discrepancies on the grounds that God told you not to pay attention to dates?
How convienient, right? Every believer has a reason not to believe.
Are you saying that ignoring discrepancies is your specialty?? It seems more like not making sense is your specialty.
It would seem like Atheists are of the view we worship the Bible. We don’t.

Nor is the Bible our source for guidance. God Is.
 
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Right back: 'don't dish it out.' (the intentional taking of offense).

So you admit you're intentionally taking offense? That would explain a lot.


Yes, because there's nothing more life-empowering than broadbrushing an entire group of people as homicidal maniacs - which of course is in NO way insulting

Whatever floats your boat.

Do remember: other seekers will read here, and some, from 'LIFE-empowering and LIFE-enriching examples honestly stated', will convert, and be saved... PRAISE God!

What about the ones who are sickened by such obvious...I'll spare the use of the word I was originally going to use....irony, and put off?

I personally find your attitude very offputting.

When you bring yourself to exercising the basic respect others find easy, perhaps I will respond to you. Good day!

And remember folks, "basic respect" is strawmanning an entire people's point of view and then accusing them all of murder!
 
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Ah yes, start with an unsupported assertion that "too many atheists have been heard saying" and then slam the guy four or five times for not quoting your words to the exact letter.

Marvellous.

*deckchair + sandwich time*
 
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HAHAHAHAHA! You know what? I'm done with you, have a nice life, I'm going to try out this spiffy 'ignore' button CF has.
. GOD won't not ignore you, 'cause He's not done with you; and you Know why: be cause GOD *perfectly and eternally LOVES* you wedjat, yes! - (try your various cf-buttons). I simply love you as a future brother-in-Christ. Fare thee well!
 
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. GOD won't not ignore you, 'cause He's not done with you; and you Know why: be cause GOD *perfectly and eternally LOVES* you wedjat, yes! - (try your various cf-buttons). I simply love you as a future brother-in-Christ. Fare thee well!
Dear Annie,

But no reply to me? Is that life affirming and polite?
 
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Consensus Cosmology refuses to acknowledge any theory that explains the so called “anomalous” observations if those theories are not based on the Big Bang model.

I think that is a pretty good definition of what I meant by "ignore".

They may acknowledge the observation, but completely ignore any explanation that does not fit their mathemagical cosmic monster, even though the explanation is scientific.
*snip*

Since none of it really had anything to do with my objection.
Then why did you snip this:

Consensus Cosmology's response:
 
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Yes, because there's nothing more life-empowering than broadbrushing an entire group of people as homicidal maniacs - which of course is in NO way insulting
Kinda like bringing up Numbers 31.

The mirror hurts, doesn't it?

Oh, wait ... they were infanticidal in Numbers 31 ... nevermind.
 
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Kinda like bringing up Numbers 31.

The mirror hurts, doesn't it?

Not when it's cracked and pointing the wrong way, it doesn't.

Oh, wait ... they were infanticidal in Numbers 31 ... nevermind.

That's what the literal reading says, alright.

And I don't see where anyone even mentioned Numbers 31 in this thread, or made the same broadbrushing about *contemporary* Christians all being murderers. I don't think I'd even use Numbers 31 or indeed any chapter on that one. Way to strawman there!

Either way, the original quote is still hypocrisy. This wasn't done in response to anyone, it was unprovoked. If this mirror image is so obvious to you, maybe do what you should have started doing a long time ago and start setting an example proportional to how highly you think of yourselves?

How obvious can do unto others be for goodness sakes....
 
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No, I can’t prove the non-existence of evidence other than empirical evidence for ascertaining the existence of something.

No you can't prove that physical empirical evidence is the only way to prove that something exists. If you can't prove it why is that your position?
 
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Nor is the Bible our source for guidance. God Is.
...except that God communicates with you through the scripture in the Bible, which is the basis for all of your Christian doctrine. I have yet to discuss God with a Christian who doesn't end up spouting Bible verses as answers. If the Bible weren't your source of guidance, you'd throw it out the window like garbage and rely solely on prophets, priests, intermediaries, or personal prayer time. Why place so much emphasis on scripture (which is supposed to be "God-breathed") when the Bible isn't your source for guidance?

At least with the Bible you have some semblance of uniformity, although it's clear that it wasn't enough to keep Christianity from shattering into a thousand different denominations who all think each other wrong.

Kinda like bringing up Numbers 31.
You're the only one who has, with this post. What are you hoping to accomplish?
 
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You're the only one who has, with this post. What are you hoping to accomplish?
I just happened to be walking by with a mirror and saw Cabal's post and thought I'd hold it up.
 
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Right. To accomplish what, exactly? Thread derailment?
Of course --- isn't that what I do best?

(It's so easy when I have help. Many hands make light work, as the saying goes.)
 
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I am not that big on redshift but could you explain how "connected" redshift objects falsify the Big Bang Theory?
Consensus Cosmology believes that the higher an objects redshift light is in space the farther away it is moving from us. Using this idea to measure the size of the Universe, Consensus Cosmology assumes that the universe is rapidly expanding, and that the expansion was caused by an initial Bang, the Big Bang - cause and effect. (This "cause and effect" idea alone tells us that the Big Bang is just a Big Assumption.)

The Big Bang theory is therefore based on the assumption that higher redshift objects in space are always farther away from objects with lower redshift, therefore it is impossible for objects with vastly differing redshifts to be connected since they are so far apart.

Which is obviously not the case:



The fact that we do observe objects of vastly differing redshifts connected falsifies the idea on which the Big Bang theory is based, and therefore falsifies the Big Bang itself. It has no base.

An ad hoc illusory base has been put in place to hold the dead theory together with the use of mathemagic.
I'm still confused about how "anomalous" objects falsify the Big Bang.
It is because the objects falsify the Big Bang that they are considered “anomalous”. Anything that falsifies the Big Bang is considered by Consensus Cosmology to be “anomalous”.

Even “God did it” is considered “anomalous”, as this thread demonstrates.

The reason why observations are considered “anomalous” by Consensus Cosmology is because the Big Bang model cannot scientifically explain them. They do not fit the Big Bang model. But, yet, we observe them. This suggests that the Big Bang model is not based on observations, but on magic, mathemagic.

The fact that Plasma Cosmology scientifically explains the observations quit well, and even predicts them, using the scientific method, demonstrates that the observations can be explained scientifically.

The fact that they are explained scientifically, and the scientific explanation does not fit the Big Bang model, falsifies the Big Bang model, because the Big Bang model is not consistent with what is considered to be a scientific explanation. It is consistent only with what is mathemagic.
Well, it is scientifically dead already. But it has been mathemagically resurrected and is now being kept mathemagically alive like a cosmic Frankenstein monster.

Remove the mathemagic and it remains as dead as dead could be.

The Big Bang is a scientifically dead theory. It is now a living mathemagical religion.
I can tell you that you are wrong right there. 70% of the universe is dark energy, 25% is dark matter, and the rest is "regular" matter.
The problem with dark matter and dark energy is that they are precisely the way Atheists describe God – Never observed, Never touched, Never detected.

So if those dark invisible entities are real, so is God. This is why I consider Big Bang a mathemagical religion; its proponents faith relies heavily on the invisible and undetected.
So if the universe is 99% plasma, how would you explain why galaxies have more gravity that what accounts for visible matter?
Space plasma consists of electrically charged particles (electrons and ions), making it an excellent conductor of electricity, far better than copper. Electricity generates electromagnetic force. Electromagnetic force is 1000, billion, billion, billion, billion times stronger than gravitational force.

It is this electromagnetic force generated in electrified Cosmic Plasma that forms, drives, and sustains galaxies, not gravity.


No fictitious dark matter or black holes are required, because, in the Universe, gravitational force is secondary; Electromagnetic force is primary.

They don’t teach that in Consensus Cosmology school, because Big Bang is their pet theory.
 
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