Does God use evolutionary cycles?

[justagirl123]

Does God intend for souls to live to their fullest extent and be used up, then dissolved and regenerated? Is this a long shot theory? My desire is to prove to myself that perhaps, torment in hell does end. (Ie Hebrews 1:11 "They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment."... though there are many verses that say torment endures forever, as well as many that say, as stated above, "They [the wicked] will perish.)
Do you believe that torment ends, or that it extends countless "eternities"?

 

[Kirkwhisper]

Does God intend for souls to live to their fullest extent and be used up, then dissolved and regenerated? Is this a long shot theory? My desire is to prove to myself that perhaps, torment in hell does end. (Ie Hebrews 1:11 "They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment."... though there are many verses that say torment endures forever, as well as many that say, as stated above, "They [the wicked] will perish.)
Do you believe that torment ends, or that it extends countless "eternities"?

If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior then you don't have to worry about hell. There will be no torment for you, only for those who truly deserve it. Luke 21;18 "But there shall not an hair of your head perish."

 

[justagirl123]

If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior then you don't have to worry about hell. There will be no torment for you, only for those who truly deserve it. Luke 21;18 "But there shall not an hair of your head perish."

I thought that none were worthy of God. I thought that was why Jesus had to come and die for our sins in order to redeem us. What about those whom it is too late for?

 

[Kirkwhisper]

I thought that none were worthy of God. I thought that was why Jesus had to come and die for our sins in order to redeem us. What about those whom it is too late for?

It's true. None of us are worthy. But Jesus will change your heart and take away all your sins if you receive Him. He will make you ready to meet with the heavenly Father. He loves you and wants you to be in his kingdom forever.

It's hard to know what to say about those who rejected Him and His love. I look upon such people with sadness but that thought did not stop me from receiving God's love nor from believing in Jesus.

Please understand that God only sends people to hell who DID NOT WANT Him no matter what they learned about Him. The Lord does not force people into heaven nor to be with Him.

Best wishes.

 

[justagirl123]

It's true. None of us are worthy. But Jesus will change your heart and take away all your sins if you receive Him. He will make you ready to meet with the heavenly Father. He loves you and wants you to be in his kingdom forever.


It's hard to know what to say about those who rejected Him and His love. I look upon such people with sadness but that thought did not stop me from receiving God's love nor from believing in Jesus.

Please understand that God only sends people to hell who DID NOT WANT Him no matter what they learned about Him. The Lord does not force people into heaven nor to be with Him.

Best wishes.

How do you know whether or not the Spirit strive with you?

 

[Kirkwhisper]

How do you know whether or not the Spirit strive with you?

Answer: Your conscience.

Do you feel a struggle pulling you one way and then another concerning certain important things in your life? That's Him....pulling you towards that which is right and at the other end are devils, Satan's servants attempting to pull you away from God and His truth. Romans 7:14-22.

You questions are excellent. Right on the point.

I am praying for you.

 

[chris4243]

If you have accepted Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior then you don't have to worry about hell.

Is that so?

21 “Not everyone who says to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but only the one who does the will of my Father who is in heaven. 22 Many will say to me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name and in your name drive out demons and in your name perform many miracles?’ 23 Then I will tell them plainly, ‘I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!’

James 2:19
You believe that there is one God. Good! Even the demons believe that—and shudder.
24 You see that a person is considered righteous by what they do and not by faith alone.

There is nothing I do, including "having faith", that will earn me salvation. No, I try my best to do what is right, and trust in God to have mercy on me for my many failings, not because I deserve it but because He is so gracious.

As for others, consider: if you say "you must do such and such to go to Heaven", you are saying to other people who did not, "and the rest of you will go to Hell". Even if it is true, speaking like that is dangerously close to playing God.

There will be no torment for you, only for those who truly deserve it. Luke 21;18 "But there shall not an hair of your head perish."

Interesting that you think of yourself that you are not deserving of Hell, even though you in fact know otherwise. But I get the impression that justagirl123 was not so much concerned about herself, but rather for the multitudes of others. Maybe I'm not as cynical as I thought I was, seeing empathy where you see self-interest.

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justagirl123, consider this passage:

27 When Jesus stepped ashore, he was met by a demon-possessed man from the town. For a long time this man had not worn clothes or lived in a house, but had lived in the tombs. 28 When he saw Jesus, he cried out and fell at his feet, shouting at the top of his voice, “What do you want with me, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I beg you, don’t torture me!” 29 For Jesus had commanded the impure spirit to come out of the man. Many times it had seized him, and though he was chained hand and foot and kept under guard, he had broken his chains and had been driven by the demon into solitary places. 30 Jesus asked him, “What is your name?”
“Legion,” he replied, because many demons had gone into him. 31 And they begged Jesus repeatedly not to order them to go into the Abyss.
32 A large herd of pigs was feeding there on the hillside. The demons begged Jesus to let them go into the pigs, and he gave them permission.

also:
34 Jesus said, “Father, forgive them, for they do not know what they are doing.”

Now I don't know for a fact what demons have done, nor what they deserve. But it seems that Jesus has mercy on demons. We do know some of what the folks who killed Jesus did, and what they thought of Him -- it seems that even so He does not wish them bad. So perhaps things aren't so hopeless for others as some Christians insist they are.

 

[Kirkwhisper]

"Is that so?"

Yes, that's so.

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

I John 5:11-13
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.

13 These things have I written unto you that believe on the name of the Son of God; that ye may know that ye have eternal life.

For God so loved the world that he gave His only begotten Son that whosoever believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. John 3:16.

Child-like faith and trust in Jesus Christ as God's Son, who died upon the cross for all our sins is what the Lord wants and expects from every sinner who seeks the Lord.

Now what therefore, is your purpose in interfering in this matter?

 

[ProScribe]

Does God use evolutionary cycles?

Possibly, yes.

 

[gluadys]

Does God intend for souls to live to their fullest extent and be used up, then dissolved and regenerated? Is this a long shot theory? My desire is to prove to myself that perhaps, torment in hell does end. (Ie Hebrews 1:11 "They will perish, but you remain; they will all wear out like a garment."... though there are many verses that say torment endures forever, as well as many that say, as stated above, "They [the wicked] will perish.)
Do you believe that torment ends, or that it extends countless "eternities"?

Could you clarify how you see this referring to "evolutionary cycles"? I don't see any connection between the thread title and your question.

I thought that none were worthy of God. I thought that was why Jesus had to come and die for our sins in order to redeem us. What about those whom it is too late for?

How can it ever be too late with God?

 

[lucaspa]

Does God intend for souls to live to their fullest extent and be used up, then dissolved and regenerated? Is this a long shot theory?

Pretty much. If the soul was regenerated, then who would it be? Me? Regenerated me? Somebody new?

My desire is to prove to myself that perhaps, torment in hell does end. ... Do you believe that torment ends, or that it extends countless "eternities"?

I have doubts that Hell exists as usually thought of by Milton and Dante. IF it does, then I think it is an asylum for the theologically insane. Which means that, if the inhabitants truly repent and want to find God, then God will provide a means for them to do so, just as God has provided means for us living to find Him.

 

[lucaspa]

"Is that so?"

Yes, that's so.

You can only say that by ignoring many Biblical verses. I do realize that Protestants went down the road of "saved by faith alone", but I'm not sure present Protestants are using the phrase in the same way that Luther and Calvin did. Also, by ignoring parts of scripture you are violating your own view of scripture. For instance:

Acts 16:31 And they said, Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house.

Paul did say this. But what did Paul mean by "belief"? In other verses, it is clear that Paul ties "belief" to other emotions -- such as love -- and works -- such as restraint from sinful practices and particular modes of treatment of people. So when you consider all that Paul said, there is still an element of "works" as part of "belief".

I John 5:11-13
11 And this is the record, that God hath given to us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.

And His Son in Matthew 25 ties life in Jesus to particular works. According to Jesus, just saying "Lord, Lord" is not enough.

Now what therefore, is your purpose in interfering in this matter?

To educate you in Christian theology and get you thinking that the simplistic "saved by faith" involves more than you acknowledge.

 

[artybloke]

IF it does, then I think it is an asylum for the theologically insane

Gonna be full of creationists then...