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The Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, was a symbol of the choice that mankind could take. If they ate from the tree, their choice would lead to an evil world.
If they obeyed God, their choice would have led to a good world.
Just as the Tree of life was a symbol of Adam if he attained perfection.
right and if you take away evil you take away the choice.
Psalm 33:15
he who forms the hearts of all, who considers everything they do
We have many many examples in the Bible where God replaces a man's heart, or even hardens it.
Answer me this: Why would God make someone He knows will never receive Him?
btw...I wonder if this is a troll thread :/
right and if you take away evil you take away the choice.
Still confused on that one.
Holiday to Florida, or holiday to Greece?
I have that choice, are you saying I'm evil because I can choose?
Thanks very much.
Still confused on that one.
Holiday to Florida, or holiday to Greece?
I have that choice, are you saying I'm evil because I can choose?
Thanks very much.
now your just trying to make something out of nothing. Its not hard if there is only good then what is the choice, lets see do good or do good i think i'll do good, but if there is a opposite such as evil then there is choice good or evil. IE i can walk towards the sun or away from it, if the sun is in every direction then no matter which way i walk I walk into the sun there is no choice. I will be walking into the sun regardless of how I get there.
Your not going to get, study with The Holy Spirit some more. go in peace. blu
9. Q:Will there be different degrees of punishment.
A: The future punishment will be greater according to the degrees of sin, and the knowledge men had of God's will and of the way of salvation through Christ. (Luke 12:47, 48; Mark 12:40)A Catechism of Bible Teaching, John A. Broadus, 1892 | The Reformed Reader
now your just trying to make something out of nothing. Its not hard if there is only good then what is the choice, lets see do good or do good i think i'll do good, but if there is a opposite such as evil then there is choice good or evil. IE i can walk towards the sun or away from it, if the sun is in every direction then no matter which way i walk I walk into the sun there is no choice. I will be walking into the sun regardless of how I get there.
Your not going to get, study with The Holy Spirit some more. go in peace. blu
How would we ever possibly know what good is in the absence of evil.
This earth is a proving ground for eternity.
It's not God that saves us, it's that we must save ourselves. If we don't change, then God cannot save us.
God cannot or will not do 'Our Faith' for us.
We do our own saving, based on our understanding of God's will for us.
If we understand God as someone who will punish us for doing wrong, then that will be the level of our relationship with God.
If we understand God as someone who unconditionally loves us, then this will be our level of relationship with God.
It all depends on us, and our level of understanding.
Before Jesus, God was viewed as someone who must be obeyed, or there will be punishment.
After Jesus, we should be on the level of obeying God because we want to obey Him, and not because we fear any punishment from Him.
How do we see God, As a General, or as a Parent?
ok so this question is kinda stupid because I do believe god saves all. but I have a question about this. the bible says that in order to be saved you have to know that your a sinner and repent or something like that. well what happens if you don't know if your a sinner and you repent. does god still save you?? my nephew says that if you don't know that your a sinner and ask god to save you, then you aren't saved because you have to know that your a sinner. and also you have to truly mean it or else you won't be saved. so really, what happens if you don't know your a sinner or you think your saved but don't know if you are and you repent. does that mean god will save you??? also, what happens if you don't repent the right way??? my nephew also said that if you asked god to save you and you repented and still don't know if your saved, and didn't feel god save you, then you didn't do it right. he said you have to do it right or god won't save you.
I'm a Calvinist so we believe that God can save all but not all are going to except it. So knowing that already God knows who will choose him and who will not.
That is the simple way to put it =]
I think the original poster had serious issues, other posts from the poster can be checked, to see what I mean. From that though it is not clear where provocation was meant, or that it was speaking from personal dilemma.
Everyone has opportunity to respond to knowledge from God, which there always is on some level or another. Even animals have a knowledge of the Creator, indicated from scripture.
Well God believes in steps. He said for every one step you take to me I will take two toward you.
I have a thought that these people who do not come to God never came from Him, but maybe came from satans line. but i can not back that up in the Biblical sense. Now satan was necessary because with out evil there is no choice and God did not want people following Him by default, but He wanted their love and for them to follow him out of love.
Evil as disgusting as it is gives a choice or free will, this what i was trying to explain to the other poster. If there is only good there is no choice no free will.
now your just trying to make something out of nothing. Its not hard if there is only good then what is the choice, lets see do good or do good i think i'll do good, but if there is a opposite such as evil then there is choice good or evil. IE i can walk towards the sun or away from it, if the sun is in every direction then no matter which way i walk I walk into the sun there is no choice. I will be walking into the sun regardless of how I get there.
Your not going to get, study with The Holy Spirit some more. go in peace. blu
God is good. What's wrong with having the choice between good and good?
Will I help the old lady with her messages, or shall I instead help out at the local hospital?
If you need to have a God that requires you to experience evil, then you live that life, but remember you'll be creating that life for all eternity.
Me, I'm going to have a life where evil doesn't exist.
Remember Genesis 6:6
God was broken hearted, when mankind brought evil into their lives.
God said 'DON'T' eat the fruit.
I genuinely feel sorry for you.
So what is the point of the Gospel being preached?
As well the great commission,since it is already predestined.
What is the point of John 3:16
I guess I could say we help those who are going to accept salvation but if we don't they will be saved any way.
God is good. What's wrong with having the choice between good and good?
Will I help the old lady with her messages, or shall I instead help out at the local hospital?
If you need to have a God that requires you to experience evil, then you live that life, but remember you'll be creating that life for all eternity.
Me, I'm going to have a life where evil doesn't exist.
Remember Genesis 6:6
God was broken hearted, when mankind brought evil into their lives.
God said 'DON'T' eat the fruit.
I genuinely feel sorry for you.
lol ok have fun with that.
God uses means to accomplish His desired ends.
The point of John 3:16 is that God sent Christ to save believers
This shows a misunderstanding of the doctrine of election. Predestination and election doesn't mean that some people will be saved and some will be lost whether or not they believed the gospel. Instead, it recognizes that the way God saves people is by bringing them to a knowledge of the truth and bringing them to faith in the gospel. Those who are not saved never believed the gospel, because they never wanted to.
The Tree of knowledge of Good and Evil, was a symbol of the choice that mankind could take. If they ate from the tree, their choice would lead to an evil world.
If they obeyed God, their choice would have led to a good world.
Just as the Tree of life was a symbol of Adam if he attained perfection.
I don't know about that idea,knowledge of evil and it's consequences logically should discourage it.
If they were void of the capability to do evil why did they sin to begin with?
Due to disobedience sin entered this world prior to the disobedience there was only good in man.
Good with choice to perform evil.
I don't know about that idea,knowledge of evil and it's consequences logically should discourage it.
If they were void of the capability to do evil why did they sin to begin with?
Due to disobedience sin entered this world prior to the disobedience there was only good in man.
Good with choice to perform evil.
It's really rather simple. If a parent tells his child, 'Do not touch the hot iron', the parent is saying that in order to protect his child from being badly burnt.
The same is true when God told Adam (Eve), 'Do not eat that fruit', it was a commandment to protect them, not from being burnt in this case, but from separating themselves and their descendants from God.
Why then did they disobey? Because they were immature, they were still growing. God knew their immaturity could lead them astray, so He gave that warning.
The last statement seems to promote free will,is that your intention?
If so I have a better understanding being some will choose not to accept the Gospel.
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