Does GOD create gays???

[The Mighty Sword]

If gays claim they were born gay, that would have to mean God created them gay.

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

Isaiah 44:2
This is what the LORD says--he who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will help you: Do not be afraid, O Jacob, my servant, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.

Psalm 22:9
Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you even at my mother's breast.

What do you think?

 

[NatalieJan777]

I am not going to participate in this one. By the last one it was appearant that the answer was in the title. GOD does not create sin, man creates sin. However, God created the men who sin and we are all sinners.

 

[The Mighty Sword]

I am not going to participate in this one. By the last one it was appearant that the answer was in the title. GOD does not create sin, man creates sin. However, God created the men who sin and we are all sinners.

I have had many conversation with gays concerning thier lifestyle, and they usualy say "I was born gay" and/or there is no GOD.

To minister to a gay is a touchy subject.

 

[NatalieJan777]

To minister to a gay is a touchy subject.

I too know this. GOD BLESS! I am not even going to come in here after this, but if you are doing the will of GOD I do believe YOU WILL SUCCEED!

 

[The Mighty Sword]

I too know this. GOD BLESS! I am not even going to come in here after this, but if you are doing the will of GOD I do believe YOU WILL SUCCEED!

Thank you.

GOD bless you toooooooooooooo.

 

[Stinker]

Does GOD create gays???

If gays claim they were born gay, that would have to mean God created them gay.

Jeremiah 1:5
"Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

Isaiah 44:2
This is what the LORD says--he who made you, who formed you in the womb, and who will help you: Do not be afraid, O Jacob, my servant, Jeshurun, whom I have chosen.

Psalm 22:9
Yet you brought me out of the womb; you made me trust in you even at my mother's breast.

What do you think?

Yes, God created Gays, Heterosexuals, Bi-Sexuals, Lesbians, Transgendered, and Hermaphradites. He created them:




25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29That no flesh should glory in his presence. (1Cor.1:25-29) KJV



Due to misteaching of the past, many people are unable to see what the word of God actually is saying in the Old and New Testaments. They have been mistaught that Homosexuality is the subject in certain passages when it actually is never addressed.

 

[jwaitman]

I have had many conversation with gays concerning thier lifestyle, and they usualy say "I was born gay" and/or there is no GOD.

To minister to a gay is a touchy subject.

If I were ministering to gays, I would first start with a teaching on fear. Why? Because if you've had a fear for as long as you can remember, you might think you were born with this fear. However, (other than loud noises and falling) this is not the case. Take for instance snakes - put a newborn in a crib with a snake and see if the newborn is afraid. A fear of snakes is learned - and it is the same with being gay.

And if that doesn't work, you could always use the fact that gays can't reproduce .

 

[revrobor]

No one is born homosexual, that's a cop-out. Homosexuality is caused by environmental and other factors including a lot of help from Satan. The homosexual community loves to tout a study done in San Diego about a decade ago as "proof" that one is born homosexual. The study was done on two brains, one from a homosexual and one from a heterosexual. The scientists found the brains were different but could not determine if the brains were different because the one was homosexual or if the one was homosexual because the brain was different. Don't buy into the "I was born homosexual" lie.

 

[Spirit_Star]

I don’t know how it could someones genes hardwire them to be homosexual. If God created gays then why is being gay considered a sin. Then you have the fact that there are some homosexual and even bi animals.

 

[revrobor]

I don’t know how it could someones genes hardwire them to be homosexual. If God created gays then why is being gay considered a sin. Then you have the fact that there are some homosexual and even bi animals.

Homosexual sex is sinful not being homosexual.

 

[70x7]

God created them as a person, not as gay to begin with. When God said "..I knew you in the womb" He was referring to what you were, are, and will be. Everything about you is manifest to Him. God creates everyone with the free choice. Some choose to be gay.
I know the argument says they are "born like that" but frankly, I do not believe that. I believe EVERYONE has a choice in EVERYTHING. Alcoholics, drug users, gays, car salesmen, preachers, etc....every man has the choice to continue thier actions or not. Some vices may be difficult to overcome, but ultimatley, it can be beaten.

"Stay awake and pray that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matt 26:41

 

[hopeinGod]

Most gays that I have known made great friends. The ones I knew were fairly typical: very creative, clean, kind, gentle, giving, and even more so than many Christians I've known in 35 years being saved.

As a musician, I played for six weeks in a lesbian bar. I watched the women dance with one another, and that's it. There was nothing more to watch. Of course, they did the same things heterosexuals do at the end of their drinking: they took someone home with them. It's all the same sin, so why point it out as being anything different than what heterosexuals do? Sin is sin.

Dave

 

[Stinker]

Then there are situations in which males are born with a female part/s and females born with a male part/s. Therefore, since these physical characteristics exist in some people, it follows that psychological and emotional components found in the opposite sex, can exist in some people since birth.


Let us remember that passages often used to try to counter the 'since birth' argument, the Jeremiah passage where the prophet is telling us that God specifically told him (Jeremiah the prophet) that God predestined him for a mission, not every person born in the world before, during, or since. The same with King David and what he wrote concerning himself in the Psalms.

 

[The Mighty Sword]

God created them as a person, not as gay to begin with. When God said "..I knew you in the womb" He was referring to what you were, are, and will be. Everything about you is manifest to Him. God creates everyone with the free choice. Some choose to be gay.
I know the argument says they are "born like that" but frankly, I do not believe that. I believe EVERYONE has a choice in EVERYTHING. Alcoholics, drug users, gays, car salesmen, preachers, etc....every man has the choice to continue thier actions or not. Some vices may be difficult to overcome, but ultimatley, it can be beaten.

"Stay awake and pray that you will not fall into temptation. The spirit is willing, but the flesh is weak.” Matt 26:41

Understandable. Then there is the scripture:

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

So what you're saying according to your interpretation which contradicts itself,is:

I know you will be gay.

 

[Cabal]

Anyone here choose to be straight?

I know I didn't.

 

[revrobor]

Anyone here choose to be straight?

I know I didn't.

There is no Biblical prohibition of heterosexual sex. There is of homosexual sex.

 

[Sketcher]

Well, if God made gay people gay, then what about the kleptos? Is stealing not a sin for them anymore because they're "born that way?" I don't think so. Not that I buy in to this business of people being born gay or any of this. Our genetic makeup does not condemn us to commit certain sins for the rest of our lives.

 

[70x7]

Understandable. Then there is the scripture:

Jeremiah 1:5 "Before I formed you in the womb I knew you, before you were born I set you apart; I appointed you as a prophet to the nations."

So what you're saying according to your interpretation which contradicts itself,is:

I know you will be gay.

Of course, and there is no contridiction here, just needs a clear definition. God is all knowing right? Gay, thief, murderer, etc...that only means He knows the choices you will make in your lifetime. God is not choosing your life for you....just simply knows what you will decide.
This could trial into Predestination, but that eliminates free choice, which we know God does not do to us.

 

[atcfisherman]

Does GOD create gays???





Yes, God created Gays, Heterosexuals, Bi-Sexuals, Lesbians, Transgendered, and Hermaphradites. He created them:




25Because the foolishness of God is wiser than men; and the weakness of God is stronger than men.
26For ye see your calling, brethren, how that not many wise men after the flesh, not many mighty, not many noble, are called:
27But God hath chosen the foolish things of the world to confound the wise; and God hath chosen the weak things of the world to confound the things which are mighty;
28And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath God chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29That no flesh should glory in his presence. (1Cor.1:25-29) KJV



Due to misteaching of the past, many people are unable to see what the word of God actually is saying in the Old and New Testaments. They have been mistaught that Homosexuality is the subject in certain passages when it actually is never addressed.

Sorry, but that isn't what it is talking about. And, if God created gays, then you are saying he crated the sinful Sodom and Gomorra, which was a disgrace in God's eyes and thus he destroyed it.

Also, we must remember that humans born with deformities are a direct result from the original sin and how sin throughout the ages has not only affected the spiritual, but the physical world too.

 

[jdale72]

We all share in the same fallen nature, some manifest it in more noticable ways than others, but its all cut from the same cloth. To say one mans battle with that nature is any different than anothers shows the unwillingness for us to look inward.
Our struggle isn't with flesh and bone but with rulers, dark powers, and wickedness in heavenly places. Has man created his own nature? His own devil? His slavery to sin and death? You would think with all the ability to create these things out of our own freewill we might have created our way out of this mess.
Does God create homosexuals, this is a hard question.