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does God bless sin?

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Sin is wrong and it seperates us from God. But, do you ever know of anyone that continued to sin and then God repeatedly blessed with many good things, and they still didn't see anything wrong with what they were doing or any consequence to their sin? I wonder about things like this b/c sometimes I can't see a consequence to their sin either. Will people always answer to un repentant sin? or does it just sometimes turn out ok or even more than ok? Does the blood of Christ cover everything , even the things you don't admit to? or do you have to admit them first to be forgiven? Do outward blessings mean favor from God?


*I'm not about to run out and blantently sin or anything, just trying to answer some questions I have. It sometimes seems that even Christians are proud of certian sins and they don't have that bad of a life. Just trying to understand. Please use examples from God's word in your reply, if you can.
 

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very heavy questions there. :) and great ones, mina.

I'd love to post more, but some short thoughts from my mind today are:

1) God blesses the righteous and the unrighteous (Matt 5:45). And since we are all sinners in one form or another, that is rather comforting.

2) All blessings are from God (Jas 1:17), but they may not be indicators of our own righteousness. I think worldly success is an indicator of what happens in this world. I don't think cash or fame (for example) are necessarily part of God's economy or currency.

3) We will be judged (Rev 20:12) according to what we have done. And I personally hope that God will give all a chance to repent sins known and unknown to us before the face of the Messiah.
 
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How do you know if you have found favour with God? Does the answer come more inwardly or outwardly? Will God let us know in anyways other than His word? does God's favour ever manifest in tangible ways?


* I honestly don't know the answer to these questions.
 
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Well, He temporarily blessed the Babylonians of all people, but He judged them in the end too. As the Psalms tell us, building your life on a sinful foundation will NOT work out for you in the long run. It might take a while, but you have to pay the piper. And when judgment has been brewing for 10, 20, or even 50 years, it can be crueler a fate than a more immediate consequence.

How do you know if you have found favour with God? Does the answer come more inwardly or outwardly? Will God let us know in anyways other than His word? does God's favour ever manifest in tangible ways?
You know, I think this is why we need the Word so much. Because there will invariably be a Job-like situation or the reverse. Circumstances are very unreliable indicators of God's opinion of us.
 
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who says it's the sin God blesses? I had premarital sex and God blessed me with a child, proving His love for me even in sin.

Then again...couldn't it be the devil also, giving sinners things so they won't feel the need for God?

Also, this was posed to me: Christian's have it harder many times then non-christians, because satan is trying to shake their faith in them?

Or we could go with something I was also told; God let's the non-christians have things and enjoy life because they are going to burn in hell. i DON'T believe that one.

those are just some answers i have gotten from asking the same thing.
 
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I think that it's just more that sometimes the consequences of our sin isn't immediate. Thus, it seems like some people get away with things a lot more than others. Frankly, I'm thankful for immediate chastising from God, rather than the consequences be dire later. I'm having to deal with that a lot with people around me right now.
 
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We create our own destinies. Unpopular opinion? Maybe, but tough. What does God do? He gives us the tools with which to build our destinies. He also shuts doors when He knows that taking that particular path will ultimately destroy us spiritually. Thing is, many Christians are very likely to just give up at the first sign of adversity and chalk it up to it not being Gods will for their lives. Nonchristians dont have that excuse, and thus are more likely to persevere and reap the rewards.
 
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In the old testament it seems that if you go through the list of kings that if there was a good king, then God would bless them, and a bad king they would go badly etc. examples of where they ended up, are the babylonians taking them all out of Judah when they had been doing things wrong etc, all the prophets said that if they continued to sin in the sight of the lord it would happen and then it did.

Going against that theory is the book of Job, where it isnt Job doing the wrong thing, its more to do with things that are out of his control, its understood that this may be a more develloped theology, and maybe written later in the peice. But in the end Job still gets aloft of good things from being good.

There was alot of clear cut rules for them to follow though, and under tht covenant it all made sence.

But these days we arent under that covenant, and we understand that punishment is reserved for after we have lived. We dont agree with the beleif in karma, or the ying and yang thing.

When Jesus was asked who sinned for this man to be born blind, Jesus replies neither him or his parents, he was made blind so that God could work through his blindness (sorry sorta quoting from memory)
In this case Jesus is pointing out that the bad things havent happened because of bad things done, no anger from God, it has just happened like this.

I cant think of any thing in the new testament that says that bad things happened because of bad things done, but alot of things i can think of say that we need to turn to Jesus, before we are christians its not about doing good and bad, its about asking Jesus for forgiveness and having him as our savior, after he is your savior then it is time to start thinking more towards the bible.

Then read James and see what he has to say about what having faith is, i may say i have faith, but you may show me your faith through your actions.

Im sortof trying to get at the fact that the wrong question is being asked, or it should be looked at from a different angle, Jesus wants us to follow his example, and if you want to head for the light, thats the way to do it, in the new covenant, it may seem like people are getting away with alot, but in actual fact most fun through sin normally comes up as pretty empty, where as doing what God wants is alot more meaningful.
Its not about looking at what you could get away with, but seeing what God wants you to do. And yeah then it says in the new testament that you will receive riches in heaven for every thing youve done (man i need to start looking up verses hey?!, sorry in a rush)




Um your second question of how do we know if we have found Gods favour (sorry if i went no where near answering the first one :S)(if i spent a day researching id have alot better answer :S)


Yes Gods favour does manifest in tanjible ways, but not for every one :(
If you want to see Gods favour, i think the direction to go is the direction the bible says, through doing all the things that the new testament says, try and live out what the gospels and letters have to say, then through things like ministry it all seems to happen.
The only example that i have is ive seen Gods work through leading youth group, through things ive had to say, that im pretty sure were lead by God, and some of the results that we have experienced with kids responding that we wouldnt expect. But yeah seeing what Gods doing never seems to be what id expect id see hey.

Umm sorry if your allready doing every thing ive had to say, and ive wasted your reading time :S i sorta got my self confused, and answering questions like this should take alot more time, and i should have looked for more parts of the bible to find answers :S


But no id say he doesnt bless sin, but he can work with any thing, so it wasnt his plan for me to do this sin, but he can now work with where im up to.
 
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thanks for the answers. My faith isn't hanging in the balance or anything. These are just things i've never thought aobut before, steming from a conv. with my nonChristian brother who said that if I was a Christian why didn't I have a better life (not that i have a horrible life and am actually quite thankful for much in my life but he was talking about why was i single and how come i didn't have a family and he did, basically it was just bait to make me mad or hurt or something which is how is mean mind works sometimes) and I didn't know how to answer him other than say God is in control.
 
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man i dont know what id say to that either hey :(
therres alot of it hey, in scrubs the tv show, the eppisode where we are up to on australian tv had doctor cox (the tuff, outstanding sort of doctor)arguing with one of the senior nurses over God bringing good things from every thing.
in the eppisode they have a child patient who has been stabbed by some man, and coz (the doctor) is using it as an example that bad things just happen, and that God isnt bringing good things from it etc, then it turns out the stab would was into a cancer or some thing, so in this case God has (well or coincidence) used it for good.

But now the burse has gone into a coma, and what good will come from that?

Well despite all of it we are supposed to be heavenly riches focussed, its not about getting rich or any thing like that down here, for as Jesus says its harder for a rich man to get into heaven than for a donkey through the eye of a needle (sorry if ive said that wrong)
Its not about getting good things, being rich etc, its about loving God, and loving your neighbour.
It isnt up to us to jusdge other peoples good or bad things, or even to complain about our own, we are here to love God and to love people.

Id rather be on the path that God wants me to be on, and be close to him, than to have good things happen to me.

Would you rather have a relationship with God like that of Paul? or be rich and have famous like parris hilton?

Sorry if im not much help still, but at the moment im going through an its all about focussing on God stage, read the bible and get to know how God wants you to live your life, is the answer to every thing from me at the moment.
(i guess the fact that i cant come up with more biblical back up means i need to do more reading!!)
 
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yeah i know what you mean. Being rich and famous and having possessions is the world's idea of blessings, but my bro was talking about like relational blessings; which I must admit I do think God thinks families are important and good since He created them. Anyways I didn't know what to say and it sort of does make me wonder. But yeah I will keep following and serving God. I think there's a verse in Psalms that says "I'd rather be a doorkeeper at the gates of the Lord, than to dwell in the tents".
 
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Yeah God seems to provide me with all the relationships i need hey, and ive been ditching alot of relationships lately in order to try and clean up my life :S
But i dont know if thats some thing that is a promise from God that that will happen.


(man sorry about the fact that i seem to keep answering the wrong questions and not getting the picture, this reminds me alot of men are from mars sort of stuff where i keep trying to think of answers, bu answering the wrong questions :S
 
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