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Can you tell ALL of us, has everyone born in the last 2,000 yrs. been made alive in Christ, or is it only those who have received Christ as Savior?
But to answer you question.
Adam being the Father of All physical human beings we are in the same fallen state which He became and caused us to be in.
In other words, All of the Jews ever born were in Abraham, does that mean he personally, propagated each and ever one, and what about those who are of Faith, we are said to have been in him as well, how is he responsible for my coming to Faith?
On the other hand I and ALL Christians who have been Baptized are IN Christ.
There is a big difference between our being in Adam, and our being IN Christ.
I think you guys are making more out of the word "in" than you should, and not enough out of the word "all" that you should.
1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
I think you guys are making more out of the word "in" than you should, and not enough out of the word "all" that you should.
1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
Hopefully you understood that I was being supportive.Dear Steve: Have it your way. F.L. has now seen the light thru my old broken eyes.
All does not radically mean all?
As in Adam [some] die, so in Christ shall [some] be made alive.
But wait>>>there is>>>>more.
James 2:10
For whomsoever shall keep the whole law, but fails in a single point, has become guilty of violating [some].
Romans 3:22,23
...the righteousness of God which comes by believing in Jesus Christ. …For [some] have sinned/ none have attained the glorious likeness of God/lack the glory that comes from God/ are deprived of the Divine splendour.”
John 17:2
You have made him sovereign over [some] of mankind that He should give aeonios life to [some] You have given Him.
Hopefully you understood that I was being supportive.
Saint Steven said: ↑
I think you guys are making more out of the word "in" than you should, and not enough out of the word "all" that you should.
1 Corinthians 15:22
For as in Adam all die, so in Christ all will be made alive.
I find it interesting that this is written in the past tense. It's a done deal.Colossians 1: 19-20 “For God was pleased to have all His fullness dwell in Him, and through Him to reconcile to Himself all things, whether things on earth or things in heaven, by making peace through the blood of His cross.
I find it interesting that this is written in the past tense. It's a done deal.
Someone will ask, "But doesn't God command sinners to CHOOSE this day whom they will serve and to SEEK the Lord while He may be found?" ABSOLUTELY NOT! Oh, yes, the Scripture does say, "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the god of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord" (Jos. 24:15). But those words were never spoken to the unsaved man, without God and without hope in the world; these were the words of God's prophet to Israel, GOD'S PEOPLE, as they possessed the promised land! God has nowhere, in all the pages of His blessed Book, commanded unconverted sinners to "choose" between Him and anything else. DEAD MEN DON'T MAKE CHOICES.“There is but one Lord, one faith, one baptism, and one God and Father of [some], who rules over [some], acts through [some], and dwells in [some]. Yet to each of us individually grace was given, measured out with the munificence of Christ. For this reason Scripture says: ‘He re-ascended on high, He led captive a host of captives, and gave gifts to men.’ (Now this ‘re-ascended’ --what does it mean but that He had first descended into the lower regions of the earth? He who descended is the same as He who ascended again far above [some of] the Heavens in order to fill the universe.”
Come unto Me [some] of you that are weary.... and I will give you rest.
Matthew 11:28Saint Steven said:Someone will ask, "But doesn't God command sinners to CHOOSE this day whom they will serve and to SEEK the Lord while He may be found?" ABSOLUTELY NOT! Oh, yes, the Scripture does say, "And if it seem evil unto you to serve the Lord, CHOOSE YOU THIS DAY WHOM YOU WILL SERVE; whether the gods which your fathers served that were on the other side of the flood, or the god of the Amorites, in whose land you dwell: but as for me and my house, we will serve the Lord" (Jos. 24:15). But those words were never spoken to the unsaved man, without God and without hope in the world; these were the words of God's prophet to Israel, GOD'S PEOPLE, as they possessed the promised land! God has nowhere, in all the pages of His blessed Book, commanded unconverted sinners to "choose" between Him and anything else. DEAD MEN DON'T MAKE CHOICES.
And yes, the Scripture does say, "SEEK ye THE LORD WHILE HE MAY BE FOUND, call upon Him while He is near: let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the Lord, and He will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for He will abundantly pardon" (Isa. 55:6-7). But again, these words were never addressed to the sinner who never had a relationship with the Lord. They were thundered by the prophet Isaiah to GOD'S BACKSLIDING PEOPLE in a time of spiritual declension and apostasy. It is God's own people who must "seek" the Lord, not the man who is lost and cannot find his way. Thus it is that Jesus said, "For the Son of man is come to SEEK AND TO SAVE THAT WHICH WAS LOST" (Lk. 19:10). It is the Lord's people who are called upon to "choose" between Him and the ways of the flesh, the world, and the devil, not the man who is dead, for "the dead know not anything" (Eccl. 9:5), and are totally incapable of choosing anything but sin.
Source: The Savior of the World, by J. Preston Eby...
Can you tell ALL of us, has everyone born in the last 2,000 yrs. been made alive in Christ, or is it only those who have received Christ as Savior?
But to answer you question.
Adam being the Father of All physical human beings we are in the same fallen state which He became and caused us to be in.
In other words, All of the Jews ever born were in Abraham, does that mean he personally, propagated each and ever one, and what about those who are of Faith, we are said to have been in him as well, how is he responsible for my coming to Faith?
On the other hand I and ALL Christians who have been Baptized are IN Christ.
There is a big difference between our being in Adam, and our being IN Christ.
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