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Do you think that it was wrong for the U.S. to drop the A-bomb?
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<blockquote data-quote="Baggins" data-source="post: 47409539" data-attributes="member: 142167"><p>A definition of Facism</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>In the US you get:</p><p></p><p>Patriotism- tick a given</p><p>Nationalism - Hmmm not really, in a country so disparate nationalism is an hard card to plat</p><p>Statism - nope, I don't think so. I know for all their talk about shrinking the state no one ever does so, But the individual States that make up America means that national statism is a non-starter.</p><p>Militarism - Yes and no. More yes these days sadly with the president in the pocket of the Military-Industrial complex. </p><p>Totalitariansim - It is a democracy, so that would be an oxymoron</p><p>Anti-Communism - another yes</p><p>Economic planning - no sign of that <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite8" alt=":D" title="Big Grin :D" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":D" />. But no</p><p>Corporatism - a qualified yes with this administration, but no so with others.</p><p>Autarky - No, allthough there is a strong protectionist under-tow in American politics.</p><p>Populism- Most governments are populist to some degree</p><p>Collectivism - Most assuredly not</p><p>autocracy - Well they are elective dictatorships, but come on.</p><p>Opposition of political and economic liberalism - not really, Republicans are against political liberalism but for economic liberalism and vice versa with the Democrats to a degree.</p><p></p><p>Calling teh US facist is just cheap rhetoric that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I find large swathes of US policy under this administration a complete anathema, and I find George Bush repugnant. But calling the US facist just cheapens the debate about what is wrong with America and turns it into a slanging match. </p><p></p><p>You are an anarchist, and much good it will do you, you will spend your life politically marginalised, ridiculed and powerless.</p><p></p><p>I said before; we all make accomodations with the state we live, even you. You can rail against it all you like but by standing on the outside slinging mud and calling people murders, ignorant and facist you will change precisely nothing.</p><p></p><p>But it used to give me a warm glow to be a political outsider, a frisson of excitement, but I soon realised that it would never change anything.</p><p></p><p>I campaigned for years to get the troops out of Northern Ireland, but it was a political settlement that got them out not my posturing and marching.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Baggins, post: 47409539, member: 142167"] A definition of Facism In the US you get: Patriotism- tick a given Nationalism - Hmmm not really, in a country so disparate nationalism is an hard card to plat Statism - nope, I don't think so. I know for all their talk about shrinking the state no one ever does so, But the individual States that make up America means that national statism is a non-starter. Militarism - Yes and no. More yes these days sadly with the president in the pocket of the Military-Industrial complex. Totalitariansim - It is a democracy, so that would be an oxymoron Anti-Communism - another yes Economic planning - no sign of that :D. But no Corporatism - a qualified yes with this administration, but no so with others. Autarky - No, allthough there is a strong protectionist under-tow in American politics. Populism- Most governments are populist to some degree Collectivism - Most assuredly not autocracy - Well they are elective dictatorships, but come on. Opposition of political and economic liberalism - not really, Republicans are against political liberalism but for economic liberalism and vice versa with the Democrats to a degree. Calling teh US facist is just cheap rhetoric that doesn't stand up to scrutiny. I find large swathes of US policy under this administration a complete anathema, and I find George Bush repugnant. But calling the US facist just cheapens the debate about what is wrong with America and turns it into a slanging match. You are an anarchist, and much good it will do you, you will spend your life politically marginalised, ridiculed and powerless. I said before; we all make accomodations with the state we live, even you. You can rail against it all you like but by standing on the outside slinging mud and calling people murders, ignorant and facist you will change precisely nothing. But it used to give me a warm glow to be a political outsider, a frisson of excitement, but I soon realised that it would never change anything. I campaigned for years to get the troops out of Northern Ireland, but it was a political settlement that got them out not my posturing and marching. [/QUOTE]
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