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Do you hide it under a bushel?

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There is a song that I sang as a kid: "Hide it under a bushel, no! I'm going to let it shine..."

Do you hide it under a bushel?

In reflecting on a post in Why are you here, I have tried to discuss religion, theology, the meaning of Life, defining God with people I know, but people often get very uncomfortable. It's one of the Things to Not Bring Up at the Dinner Table.

I don't feel it necessary to wear it on my sleeve, nor do I think anyone else should. However, it's interesting, maybe a little odd, that my closest friends barely know this Beanieboy side of me. They know it in my living, in my interactions with them, in what I say and how I live my life.

However, they don't know how fascinated I am with all of it, how much I love comparative religion, how I often find myself in the Comparative Religion section of bookstores, that I speak in tongues, or that I believe that above anything, be it status, money, fame, etc, is loving God with all your heart, and loving yourself, and loving your neighbor as yourself.

I'm not exactly hiding it under a bushel. I don't even know if what I believe has a label yet, and I like keeping my God without a label, because words are slippery enough. When I ask you what a bird is, you tell me that it is a animal with feathers and wings that flies. I then say, "Is a penguin not bird? And ostrich"?

So, how then could I slap a label on God, of all things, something that I sense spiritually, rather than see in the physical place?

I sometimes cut and past better posts of mine to reflect upon later, as well as those of other posters, but I don't share them with people in the RL. If anyone, I think I have shared many of my thoughts with my brother Larry, who was a former pastor, and studied in Seminary. I often find that our views are strangely in sync with one another, offering a God of love and mercy above all things, one who does not tell you that he is angry or mad at you for something you did, but tries to get you to understand that the love is unconditional, that nothing you do, nothing you have ever done, nothing you will do, will ever make God stop loving you.

I have shared a few of my writings with my partner, but again, while very spiritual, isn't really into the religion aspect, sometimes feels like what I am saying is going over his head, or that he just isn't that interested, but happy that I am so passionate about it.

Growing up gay, I spent most of high school and a lot of my early college years trying to fly below the radar, afraid of being "discovered" for having gay feelings, knowing what happens to anyone who dared to come up, I often resign to being a bit of an enigma unless probed, and the person trusted. I can't really say that people perk up when you mention spirituality in general, suddenly wanting to jump in, so, that is a factor, too. My students, when talking about The Alchemist, and how often it had religious references, asked me about my religious affiliation, and I explained it as best I could. However, I'm not sure how many people know it, or how often my closest friends have even asked me about such things.

In RL, do you hide your bushel, a part of who you are? Do they know about your CF writing? Are you able to allow a part of yourself to come out here that you can't in RL? Should you allows try to allow that part out? Is living your religion/spirituality enough, or should you be talking about it at the level that you do here?
 

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I'm open about who I am, but not to the extent that I tell every passer-by my life's story. I don't know my housemates beyond their names, so I see no reason to bring up my being gay, my thoughts on science and philosophy, my critique of the film wΔz, etc. It's like the difference between lying and not telling the truth ^_^.

What's a bushel, anyhow?
 
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Technically, in the song, it is you love of God, or Jesus, I suppose.

In the OP it is that, and more.

At my school, I teach English to people from all over the world. Students come, or stay, or leave each month, and I usually leave out my private life altogether, just because I don't know if I want to deal with some of the homophobia that is common in their countries, don't want to have to deal with the way I am looked at, judged, or treated, or have to come out every month, have them deal with it, resolve any problems they may have about the fact, only to do it all over again.

At the same time, I won't lie, but I have been known to also answer only what is asked: No, I don't have a girlfriend. No, I'm not married. No, I don't have kids. I don't know if I want to get married, and leave it at that.

But I wouldn't lie about being gay. I do struggle with the issue, though: To come out, or not come out. Gay students would probably appreciate it, and one of the teachers talks about her wife quite a bit during class in context of learning, feels it is her duty to educate, so that people understand what a lesbian really is, knowing one.
 
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I wanted to add this to the OP:

I was talking to this wonderful girl from Nepal. Her uncle had a tea shop in Minneapolis, something that has been in their family for 14 generations, and the BEST chai ever.

I asked her what the biggest difference she noticed between the US and Nepal. She said, "In Nepal, you go to work, you come home, you eat, and then you go talk with your neighbors. In the US, you go to work, you go home, you lock you door, and you watch T.V. I think it's so selfish that people don't share themselves with each other."

I was startled, really. That is exactly what I did after work, exhausted, returning to my apartment: Looked the door, made dinner, and communed only with the T.V, often not knowing the majority of my own neighbors, nor wanting to be bothered, because I was tired from a job I hated. She said that so many people come into the tea shop, seeking companionship, simply someone to talk to, and she provides it, part of her religion to treat others as gods, to act as servant whenever anyone is her guest.

What startled me, perhaps, is the idea of sharing oneself. It is not something that we really think of. We may share time, share money, share food, but she saw each person as someone whose soul is precious, and you should share it with those around you, to allow them to see the reflection of god in you.

Or maybe I was startled to ever consider that even I could be a gift from God for others, too.
 
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Technically, in the song, it is you love of God, or Jesus, I suppose.

In the OP it is that, and more.

At my school, I teach English to people from all over the world. Students come, or stay, or leave each month, and I usually leave out my private life altogether, just because I don't know if I want to deal with some of the homophobia that is common in their countries, don't want to have to deal with the way I am looked at, judged, or treated, or have to come out every month, have them deal with it, resolve any problems they may have about the fact, only to do it all over again.

At the same time, I won't lie, but I have been known to also answer only what is asked: No, I don't have a girlfriend. No, I'm not married. No, I don't have kids. I don't know if I want to get married, and leave it at that.

But I wouldn't lie about being gay. I do struggle with the issue, though: To come out, or not come out. Gay students would probably appreciate it, and one of the teachers talks about her wife quite a bit during class in context of learning, feels it is her duty to educate, so that people understand what a lesbian really is, knowing one.

Recruitment bottomline.
 
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Recruitment bottomline.

Yeah, we have monthly quota of 20/month. If we get 50 or more, we get a microwave, 100 or more, an iPod, and 250+, a flat screen TV and the entire season of Absolutely Fabulous.

We can't reproduce, so we have to recruit. I mean, it's not like they are just going to come out of heterosexuals and heterosexual families, now are they?

"I am here to recruit you!"
The late Harvey Milk
 
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I have approximately 15 students per class x 4, so simply teaching them English is going to make at least 60 gay students per month. And surprisingly, every last one of them is gay, the girls from Brazil got mullets, the Muslim Saudis guys got faux hawks and are dating each other...

yep. That flat screen TV is mine, baby.
 
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Certain things I share with certain people. The more I learn to trust a person, the more I share with that person. If I know someone would be very uncomfortable regarding something about me, I tend to withhold that information.

There are things that only myself and one other person has knowledge about. I rarely tell people if they hurt me. I keep so many things to myself. It's hard to be any other way after being that way for so long.

I definately am not an open book, but I am trying to change that. And I have found such kindness along the way. Kindnesses that take my breath away and display the breadth of the human spirit to me.

Growth has been an experience of expansion and contraction for me. I have no other way to describe it.
 
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Certain things I share with certain people. The more I learn to trust a person, the more I share with that person. If I know someone would be very uncomfortable regarding something about me, I tend to withhold that information.

There are things that only myself and one other person has knowledge about. I rarely tell people if they hurt me. I keep so many things to myself. It's hard to be any other way after being that way for so long.

I definately am not an open book, but I am trying to change that. And I have found such kindness along the way. Kindnesses that take my breath away and display the breadth of the human spirit to me.

Growth has been an experience of expansion and contraction for me. I have no other way to describe it.

11 I's in one post... Is something on your mind Lisah?
 
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I'm interested in what the homosexual agenda has to offer new recruits. The abortionists have toaster ovens, so you're going to have to top that.

You have the possible rejection of family and friends; as a male, you'll be dating a population that has a higher AIDS risk, and can think about that while you are on your first date over dinner, wondering if the person is poz, and if he's not, if he's being honest, and if the condom won't break, will stay on, or that you may be open to contraction at any point; You will be told that you are choosing to live in sin, an easy choice, liking women but choosing me, like choosing chocolate instead of vanilla this time; you will be accused of molesting children even when innocent, of recruiting children if you teach, of flaunting you sexuality if you simply say, "My boyfriend and I saw Titanic", while heterosexuals will not only tell you about their boyfriends, girlfriends, and spouses, but their sex lives ("we're trying to have a baby, and i'm ovulating. My husband's going to go out for oysters...) but their TMI is ok, because it's normal; you will be assumed to be promiscuous, ignoring the promiscuity of heterosexual males who will brag about it and talk about it like it is a game or competition; they may talk about girl on girl porn and how hot it is, why saying that (male) homosexuality is wrong or immoral.

But wait!!! There's more!

People will quote the attempted rape at Sodom and Gomorrah, ignoring Ezekial, and claim that your loving boyfriend is exactly what the story was talking about; while heterosexual marriage only survives 50% even while supported by society, you will have society fighting against yours, even by people who have a problem with promiscuity, making it difficult to care for each other in terms of Life and Death choices, being considered next of kin, etc., and will have to still fight against that, and try to stay together. And you alone will be expected to follow Leviticus, while the rest of the world ignores it, except for two verses they hold you to. And you will be told that you should live a celibate life, while they themselves do not, or may not even wait until marriage to be sexually active, a small transgression because they will get married one day anyway.

Now how much would you pay???

Want to sign up?

On the plus side, when you date a guy about your size, you instantly double your wardrobe. And you get an extra 20% discount at Barney's.

And you can live your life in truthfulness.
 
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Certain things I share with certain people. The more I learn to trust a person, the more I share with that person. If I know someone would be very uncomfortable regarding something about me, I tend to withhold that information.

As a shy person myself, I can understand that. However, Carl Rogers said that if we were to share with others the thing about ourselves that makes us the most unique, the most different, which we are so afraid of exposing, we would move people in very profound ways.
 
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