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Do you feel obligated to use Craigslist to find a job?
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Cactus Jack
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what are you talking about?
i just want to know if i'm the only person who prefers to keep Craigslist as a last resort.
i just want to know if i'm the only person who prefers to keep Craigslist as a last resort.
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Craigslist definitely is popular today, but the quality of work positions being posted is higher elsewhere. The jobs and money are out there.
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I feel guilty using craiglist because they have ads for prostitutes on there. I cant believe that is the gold standard. Why can't a Christian make a better one?
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I have looked on Craigslist, but find that most of the companies posting are trying to get something for nothing. If you want to make a living by working for a company, find one that's able to spend a few dollars to search for quality employees, and you have a better chance of getting paid when you're hired.
I do find some credible listings on Craigslist-- mostly local companies like doctor's offices that need managers, retail stores that have high employee turnover, and even some law offices. But there is so much clutter to weed through. And so many listings that don't even mention the company's name.
Careerbuilder is my fave for general listings. USAjobs.gov has a range of jobs you'd never think of, and many specific fields have their own job boards. For instance, engineers might start looking at NSPE or ACEC, people in the arts use Behance, academics use higheredjobs or the Chronicle of Higher Ed, medical job boards and health careers... you get the idea.
Have you ever used LinkedIn? The site has groups and forums, where job listings come up in conversations, and people get to know a little about each other without the cold-call approach. As you get involved in groups, related jobs pop up on the side. It's very international.
LinkedIn gives you a chance to let people know who you are. You can exchange helpful tips, and in doing so people can see how you respond, and where your expertise lies.
There are also paid apprenticeships if jobseekers are not sure what direction to head.
I do find some credible listings on Craigslist-- mostly local companies like doctor's offices that need managers, retail stores that have high employee turnover, and even some law offices. But there is so much clutter to weed through. And so many listings that don't even mention the company's name.
Careerbuilder is my fave for general listings. USAjobs.gov has a range of jobs you'd never think of, and many specific fields have their own job boards. For instance, engineers might start looking at NSPE or ACEC, people in the arts use Behance, academics use higheredjobs or the Chronicle of Higher Ed, medical job boards and health careers... you get the idea.
Have you ever used LinkedIn? The site has groups and forums, where job listings come up in conversations, and people get to know a little about each other without the cold-call approach. As you get involved in groups, related jobs pop up on the side. It's very international.
LinkedIn gives you a chance to let people know who you are. You can exchange helpful tips, and in doing so people can see how you respond, and where your expertise lies.
There are also paid apprenticeships if jobseekers are not sure what direction to head.
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I have no problems with Craigslist per se; I have a problem with some of the less than ethical people who use Craigslist, however. Its very simple to separate the bad guys from the good guys: 1)If they want money up front, they're bad guys. 2)If they're secretive about A)where their company is located B)or what their company does, then they know their act is weak- move on.
3)If you decide to post a resume on Craigslist? Only provide enough information for them to contact you- outline your skills, but to actually contact you? do it like this:
Call me at (one two 4) seven 8 9- three six 4 8 and this seperates the bots from harvesting your information.
Put in your resume "Please put "J O B" at the top" and this will also stop the bad guys.
3)If you decide to post a resume on Craigslist? Only provide enough information for them to contact you- outline your skills, but to actually contact you? do it like this:
Call me at (one two 4) seven 8 9- three six 4 8 and this seperates the bots from harvesting your information.
Put in your resume "Please put "J O B" at the top" and this will also stop the bad guys.
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Are you talking about the applicant putting the job title at the top of the cover letter? Not sure how this would stop datamining. Explain more pls.
Try Indeed -- it gathers up jobs from various sites, and saves a little time.
Craigslist is a haven for unethical coordinators who get turned down from more reputable job listings. Jobs for models and actors-- you can guess. Academic writer jobs, getting paid to help people cheat. Men who want companions, not fooling themselves. Fake listings that want your personal info. People presenting themselves as a company or property they are not connected with.
Good things come up on Craigslist too, plenty. It's a great concept and a wonderful resource. But there are much better ways to launch a career than weeding through the mire.
Use a temp agency and start establishing a reputation, making contacts along the way.
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If you put a specific word in the header on the Craigslist ad- it seperates out the bots.
Right now I am going to an interview for a job I applied for off Craigslist,
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Thanks for the info.
I responded to two last week, and learned the hard way that Craigslist blocks mail attachments --so cv's and produced results do not end up arriving to those who request it.
Lost the promised compensation, or at least evidence that I met their requests on time. Concluded that it is better to stay on a reputable track if I want predictable results.
I responded to two last week, and learned the hard way that Craigslist blocks mail attachments --so cv's and produced results do not end up arriving to those who request it.
Lost the promised compensation, or at least evidence that I met their requests on time. Concluded that it is better to stay on a reputable track if I want predictable results.
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Well, I got my interview but the potential boss and I didn't quite see eye to eye. Oh well that's OK
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Caution is advised of generic responses and job farming companies that just want to get you in their database.
I always recommend my computer tutoring clients here in Honolulu Hawaii that they look for a local number or email them asking where they are located.
Rick
I always recommend my computer tutoring clients here in Honolulu Hawaii that they look for a local number or email them asking where they are located.
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Good advice. There are also fraudulent claims to be a familiar company or person.
I am surprised how little information people put on these ads -- even the credible organizations! And yes, I have found several very good employers using Craigslist for speed and efficiency. But they seem embarrassed to put their company names out there.
The HR departments need to think of job applicants as buyers. A shopper does not put an item in a cart if it has no price or description. A shopper does not give their credit card to an unknown online store, so why would they send too much personal info for a vague job listing? Posting information can save everyone a lot of man-hours and confusion.
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Craigslist is a pretty good job site. Like any site, it has it's ups and downs. Refusing to use craigslist because there are prostitutes is like refusing to go to church because there are sinners there.
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No way!! You might try out this site and find something to do, entrepreneurshipideas. net
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If you really want a job- and even if the company isn't hiring but you have the skill base? Go out and door knock, and do it every day. No phone calls, no sending our resume's- just get out there and door knock. The odd's of you finding a job this way is a straight 47%
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That depends on what sort of job. Any large company will hire through their HR department, and only accept applications online. In my office, people barely have time to speak to each other, let alone to walk-ins.
On the other hand, a small business would want to get the feel of the person they'd need to work with directly, to know if personalities would mesh and skill sets would balance others in the firm.
It is still true that human contact speaks stronger than resumes, but there's a hurdle of HR structure to work around.
I went to a job fair once to make in-person contacts (the fair coordinators promised company reps would be "real" contacts). Each booth that pertained to my field, the reps there were clerical or sales staff, without any influence in hiring decisions.
When handing them my resume (which the fair coordinators told us to do), they said they only accept online ones, and were not even taking names or business cards. So what what was the purpose of the fair? All the companies and job openings were already listed on the web site, with requests for online-only applications.
Some companies had lines of almost a hundred people waiting to speak to reps at tables -- but whatever sort of personal contact that could be, would end up being a screening for appearances, age, gender, race, disabilities... all the things that are not allowed to be used in hiring decisions.
Ideally a conversation about where the progress could go with the synergy of your ideas with theirs -- that would be an effective contact. Those sorts of conversations are more likely in a community meeting where you'd bump into managers and owners. Town meetings, meetup groups, churches, fundraisers, festivals... settings where owners do not feel like people want something from them.
On the other hand, a small business would want to get the feel of the person they'd need to work with directly, to know if personalities would mesh and skill sets would balance others in the firm.
It is still true that human contact speaks stronger than resumes, but there's a hurdle of HR structure to work around.
I went to a job fair once to make in-person contacts (the fair coordinators promised company reps would be "real" contacts). Each booth that pertained to my field, the reps there were clerical or sales staff, without any influence in hiring decisions.
When handing them my resume (which the fair coordinators told us to do), they said they only accept online ones, and were not even taking names or business cards. So what what was the purpose of the fair? All the companies and job openings were already listed on the web site, with requests for online-only applications.
Some companies had lines of almost a hundred people waiting to speak to reps at tables -- but whatever sort of personal contact that could be, would end up being a screening for appearances, age, gender, race, disabilities... all the things that are not allowed to be used in hiring decisions.
Ideally a conversation about where the progress could go with the synergy of your ideas with theirs -- that would be an effective contact. Those sorts of conversations are more likely in a community meeting where you'd bump into managers and owners. Town meetings, meetup groups, churches, fundraisers, festivals... settings where owners do not feel like people want something from them.
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Thats why if you have identified where you want to work you need to bypass HR and findthepersonwhocanhireyou. The best book for this is "What is the color of your parachute?" Like you said- Hiring Fair's are to be discriminatory while still being within the law.
If I was going to go back to work, I'd research the company I wanted to work at very thoroughly. Then, I would develop a plan how to bypass HR after finding the key person I needed to make contact with. Then I would do two things: A)Make a list of the people I needed to contact and B)Make a list of 100 questions with well thought out answers to convince this person I should be hired.
The biggest trick of selling is once you have overcome every objection then its time to close the sale.
If I was going to go back to work, I'd research the company I wanted to work at very thoroughly. Then, I would develop a plan how to bypass HR after finding the key person I needed to make contact with. Then I would do two things: A)Make a list of the people I needed to contact and B)Make a list of 100 questions with well thought out answers to convince this person I should be hired.
The biggest trick of selling is once you have overcome every objection then its time to close the sale.
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what is wrong with craigslist, and what does your question have anything to do with ethical business on a christian forum..
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