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Yes, there are definitely things I believe that are contradicted by at least one passage in scripture. There are a number, but I'll give one example. I believe the earth has been revolving around the sun, with a moon revolving around earth, without ceasing throughout its existence.
Do you believe the sun stood still, and the moon stopped ?In other words, the sun and moon have never stood still or stopped. And yet, we have...
"And the sun stood still, and the moon stopped," Joshua 10:13
Do you believe the sun stood still, and the moon stopped ?
I do believe in Scripture, even when it seems contradictory!Consider the idea that "baptism does not save" and then look at what these verses says
1Peter 3:
"20 Long before, they had refused belief, hoping that God would be patient with them, in the days of Noe. That ark which Noe was then building, in which a few souls, eight in all, found refuge as they passed through the waves,✻vv. 19-20: It is certain that this passage represents the holy patriarchs as living in a place of detention, neither heaven nor hell, till our Lord came (cf. Mt. 27.52, 53). It is not clear why the Apostle concentrates his attention on the contemporaries of Noe, or how those who had refused belief attained salvation afterwards; it seems best to suppose that they were incredulous while the ark was being built, and repented when it was too late to escape the Deluge. ‘Hoping that God would be patient with them’; in the Greek, apparently, ‘while God’s patience waited for them’. ‘As they passed through the waves’; some would translate ‘by means of water’, but this does not apply to the story in Genesis; Christian baptism typifies passing through the waters of death (cf. I Cor. 10.2).21 was a type of the baptism which saves us now. Our baptism is not a putting away of outward defilement; it is the test which assures us of a good conscience before God, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ.✻‘The test which assures us of a good conscience’; the Greek might also mean ‘the petition for a good conscience’."and think about this belief "We are saved by faith alone" and then look at what this passage says
James 2:"24 Do you see that a man is justified by means of works, and not by faith alone?"
Take some time to think about it. Your own most cherished beliefs are contradicted by at least one passage of scripture.
For me, on those kinds of irresolvable texts, I am happy to believe what Scripture presents and in the way it presents it.Do you believe the sun stood still, and the moon stopped ?
It is intended to be a thought provoking thread. It's a good thing to be asked if (and why) one's beliefs appear to contradict something written in the scriptures.I do believe in Scripture, even when it seems contradictory!
Because I've never found it to be so, once the Holy Spirit unveiled it.
It's such an exciting thread! Yay!
What do you think happened then, if the sun did not stand still (as was apparently noted around the world by different peoples, though I have no way to verify that) ...No, but is my post confusing? I meant to say I do not believe the sun stood still, and the moon stopped. Do you? If so, how would that work?
Give up their cherished beliefs? Perhaps, but a belief can be mistaken and when a mistake is recognised and corrected a belief that is more sound, more true, is what one receives.Thus if someone wants to follow Jesus, to be His disciple,
they must , as Jesus Says Himself,
give up everything to follow Him. even as you say 'cherished' beliefs , eh?
Of course, by God's Doing, as HE Says, the sun stood still and the moon stopped.No, but is my post confusing? I meant to say I do not believe the sun stood still, and the moon stopped. Do you? If so, how would that work?
No one can obey two masters - only one.Give up their cherished beliefs? Perhaps, but a belief can be mistaken and when a mistake is recognised and corrected a belief tat is more sound, more true is what one receives.
What do you think is irresolvable ? I thought it is plain in Scripture ....For me, on those kinds of irresolvable texts, I am happy to believe what Scripture presents and in the way it presents it.
My attitude is, if that is the way God wants me to think about, that is good enough for me, until he reveals another way to think about it.
I have nothing vested in it being either way.
Then the best advice is to try to stick with the scriptures.No one can obey two masters - only one.
What do you think happened then, if the sun did not stand still (as was apparently noted around the world by different peoples, though I have no way to verify that) ...
You could be my source here, so to speak. I think you were the first one to quote it.I'd be interested to see a source on that. Do you have one?
Of course, by God's Doing, as HE Says, the sun stood still and the moon stopped.
No question , no doubt at all.
How does anything work ? What's to work ?
The Creator of all things, From Whom Flows all things, Who Created the Earth, Sun and Moon and Starts....Oh, so you see no difficulty in what would be entailed if that were true? If you need to brush up on the revolution of planets, rotation of earth, gravity,.etc., then you might want to do that. Do you also believe in a flat earth. If not, why not?
Flat earth is up in the air (haha)
The Creator of all things, From Whom Flows all things, Who Created the Earth, Sun and Moon and Starts....
Who saves sinners from the penalty of death (as written),
He is well able to do all that is revealed in Scripture.. So He Has Done... no man can come close to contest Him ..
This is what God calls superfluous (un-needed, un-helpful at best; harmful too often) things of mankind. Notably what man calls good, and esteems, God calls abominations.we deny the reasonable, obvious, and good.
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