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<blockquote data-quote="RDKirk" data-source="post: 71774060" data-attributes="member: 326155"><p>I would say not. Our moral obligation is to the Lord, who has said to the Church while we are assigned as ambassadors of Heaven in the world, "Obey their laws, honor their officials, pay their taxes."</p><p></p><p>We obey, honor, and pay only because our own king has commanded it, but our <strong>mora</strong>l obligation is to our own king.</p><p></p><p>This was exactly the situation I was in as military assigned overseas. In accordance with the usual Status of Forces Agreement, all of us military were commanded exactly the same thing as Romans 13: Obey their laws, honor their officials, pay taxes that are levied upon you.</p><p></p><p>We fully understood that our obligation of obedience was to our commander, not to the officials of those nations. </p><p></p><p>When I was in the Philippines in the latter 80s, we were plagued by the Philippine Constabulary setting up <em>ad hoc</em> roadblocks for American troops, stopping us and shaking us down for cash on contrived charges. </p><p></p><p>We complained up our chain of command, but the firm orders were: Honor the roadblocks, pay whatever fine they demanded, or face military disciplinary action.</p><p></p><p>When we got a new commanding general, he appeared on his first day for an interview on the American military television station AFRTS. The interviewer hit him with the question of the PC roadblocks and the command of the previous general to always honor the roadblocks.</p><p></p><p>The new general said: "Follow your own judgment."</p><p></p><p>The next day in the squadron, we senior NCOs were discussing that comment, because to the young troops coming up to a PC roadblock, "follow your own judgment" would inevitably translate to "hit the gas."</p><p></p><p>Our own squadron commander happened past, and we called him into our discussion.</p><p></p><p>"Colonel, did you see the general on television last night?"</p><p>"Yup, sure did."</p><p>"When he was asked about the PC roadblocks, he said 'follow your own judgment.'"</p><p>"Yup, sure did."</p><p>"Well, 'follow your own judgment' means 'balls to the wall' to the young troops. What did the general <strong>really</strong> mean to say?"</p><p>He cocked his head and said, "I don't know about you, but I'm keeping my car in tune."</p><p></p><p>In other words, just like that, the "honor their officials" obligation vanished...based on the command of our own commander.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="RDKirk, post: 71774060, member: 326155"] I would say not. Our moral obligation is to the Lord, who has said to the Church while we are assigned as ambassadors of Heaven in the world, "Obey their laws, honor their officials, pay their taxes." We obey, honor, and pay only because our own king has commanded it, but our [B]mora[/B]l obligation is to our own king. This was exactly the situation I was in as military assigned overseas. In accordance with the usual Status of Forces Agreement, all of us military were commanded exactly the same thing as Romans 13: Obey their laws, honor their officials, pay taxes that are levied upon you. We fully understood that our obligation of obedience was to our commander, not to the officials of those nations. When I was in the Philippines in the latter 80s, we were plagued by the Philippine Constabulary setting up [I]ad hoc[/I] roadblocks for American troops, stopping us and shaking us down for cash on contrived charges. We complained up our chain of command, but the firm orders were: Honor the roadblocks, pay whatever fine they demanded, or face military disciplinary action. When we got a new commanding general, he appeared on his first day for an interview on the American military television station AFRTS. The interviewer hit him with the question of the PC roadblocks and the command of the previous general to always honor the roadblocks. The new general said: "Follow your own judgment." The next day in the squadron, we senior NCOs were discussing that comment, because to the young troops coming up to a PC roadblock, "follow your own judgment" would inevitably translate to "hit the gas." Our own squadron commander happened past, and we called him into our discussion. "Colonel, did you see the general on television last night?" "Yup, sure did." "When he was asked about the PC roadblocks, he said 'follow your own judgment.'" "Yup, sure did." "Well, 'follow your own judgment' means 'balls to the wall' to the young troops. What did the general [B]really[/B] mean to say?" He cocked his head and said, "I don't know about you, but I'm keeping my car in tune." In other words, just like that, the "honor their officials" obligation vanished...based on the command of our own commander. [/QUOTE]
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