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Of course she was His mother...biologically, not spiritually.
That's where the reality of her being His mother ends and the "concept of motherhood" "developes" into radical abstractions that turn scripture on its head.
Female egg + male sperm=child. The Holy Spirit created the human flesh of the embryonic Jesus, Mary did not create Jesus, she carried Him in her womb...
Perhaps you already knew I meant He is eternal and you were just trying to minimize my point that defeats Mary's deification...Mary is Jesus mother in every way that a mother can be. I do not know what you mean by "spiritually" but Mary surely taught Jesus about God as a mother should, and Joseph his step father would have taught Jesus about God and about the temple and the rituals in which Jesus was expected to play a part as he grew up. That's spiritual training. But perhaps you meant something else?
Female egg + male sperm=child. The Holy Spirit created the human flesh of the embryonic Jesus, Mary did not create Jesus, she carried Him in her womb. "She was found with child of the Holy Spirit."---"For that which is conceived in her is of the Holy Spirit." Surrogate mother. The creation of the human Jesus is through the power of the Holy Spirit. Today, an embryo may be implanted into the womb of another woman--the Holy Spirit needed no medical instruments for this procedure, the power to take a Divine being being and transform Him into an human embryo was not of Mary. Being a surrogate mother to the Son of God is a supreme honor enough for anyone, but she did not create Him--the Holy Spirit did.
There's a lot of speculating in your post. Do you have any scripture or official SDA doctrine to base all that speculating upon?
What I am saying is what I read in the bible. Mary was a virgin and she received a message by the words of an angel who told her that she would become pregnant. The wording is as follows:I am not going to enter into the speculation about how that worked in biological terms.The Holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will cover you with its shadow. And so the child will be holy and will be called Son of God.
Great...but not the point of the thread.Without Christ but with Mary, I am nothing. Without Mary but with Christ, I am everything.
Jesus is, was, and has always been, so no, I don't agree. God would have come down to save us, with or without Mary- no offense. She's blessed to be chosen though! But, we are all blessed, and the only one who deserves to be put on a pedestal is God.
Great...but not the point of the thread.
The point was do you agree, I said no, and said why. Not sure what you are missing here
"Without the Virgin Mary, there would be no Jesus Christ. Without the Virgin Mary there would be no Mother Church."
That was the question...so you when off the tracks without even addressing the Church issue,never mind a rather faulty understanding of orthodox thought when it comes to Christ's incarnation.
Yeah, honestly, I wonder if Mary's genetic traits are in Jesus's DNA at all. For all we now, God could have literally just started creating Jesus cells out of nothing. We don't know! Maybe He just used her literally as a vessel, as in her amniotic sac and uterus. Maybe He didn't even use her eggs.
Without Christ but with Mary, I am nothing. Without Mary but with Christ, I am everything.
Jesus is, was, and has always been, so no, I don't agree. God would have come down to save us, with or without Mary- no offense. She's blessed to be chosen though! But, we are all blessed, and the only one who deserves to be put on a pedestal is God.
"Without the Virgin Mary, there would be no Jesus Christ. Without the Virgin Mary there would be no Mother Church."
That was the question...so you when off the tracks without even addressing the Church issue,never mind a rather faulty understanding of orthodox thought when it comes to Christ's incarnation.
"Without the Virgin Mary, there would be no Jesus Christ. Without the Virgin Mary there would be no Mother Church."
Without Christ but with Mary, I am nothing. Without Mary but with Christ, I am everything.
Jesus is, was, and has always been, so no, I don't agree. God would have come down to save us, with or without Mary- no offense. She's blessed to be chosen though! But, we are all blessed, and the only one who deserves to be put on a pedestal is God.
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Yeah, honestly, I wonder if Mary's genetic traits are in Jesus's DNA at all. For all we now, God could have literally just started creating Jesus cells out of nothing. We don't know! Maybe He just used her literally as a vessel, as in her amniotic sac and uterus. Maybe He didn't even use her eggs.
Slow down a minute, ma'am.
Let's keep our understanding of His humanity to be as intimately complete as we can.
Listen. If you can't appreciate getting the underlying assumptions of the question addressed without seeing its relevance, maybe you should be poiite enough to ask someone before being insulting about it.
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