Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

Frogster · Mar 28, 2011

sheina said:
It is selective "law keeping"

chuck it out, even though it was holy i guess?

Feasts..Leviticus 23:1 The LORD spoke to Moses, saying, 2 Speak to the people of Israel and say to them, These are the appointed feasts of the LORD that you shall proclaim as holy convocations; they are my appointed feasts.

ARBITER01 · Mar 28, 2011

Elder 111 said:
It is made clear that we as Christians are under grace and are save by grace by faith.
Does that mean that we do not keep the 10 commandments?
A Jehovah's witness made it a point of telling me that the commandments are abolished. My next question was, can I have sex with you?
Answer, No!
Why Not?
We have to keep the spirit of the law.
What! The law died and the spirit lives?
Is that what we believe?
Does that make sense?
If we acknowledge that we can not lie or steal or commit adultery, do we not acknowledge that the law is still for us?

Funny situation there.

In all honesty though, as born again Christians, we are not led by the law of moses, we are led by The Spirit of GOD.

We don't have to memorize what not to do so we don't do it in a book, we have The law of Christ written upon our hearts now, as well as The Holy Spirit inside us, leading us to do those things that please Him.

k4c · Mar 28, 2011

Everyone of the Ten Commandments are taught in the new covenant. If you close your eyes to them you can teach the Law is done away with. But if you open your eyes and see them you will not only see them you will understand verses that say, "Shall we continue to sin because we're under grace? Certainly not!" "Shall we sin so that grace might abound? Certainly not!".

Frogster · Mar 28, 2011

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Hentenza · Mar 28, 2011

k4c said:
Everyone of the Ten Commandments are taught in the new covenant. If you close your eyes to them you can teach the Law is done away with. But if you open your eyes and see them you will not only see them you will understand verses that say, "Shall we continue to sin because we're under grace? Certainly not!" "Shall we sin so that grace might abound? Certainly not!".

Rom. 4
14For if those who are of the Law are heirs, faith is made void and the promise is nullified;
15for the Law brings about wrath, but where there is no law, there also is no violation.

Frogster · Mar 28, 2011

k4c said:
Everyone of the Ten Commandments are taught in the new covenant. If you close your eyes to them you can teach the Law is done away with. But if you open your eyes and see them you will not only see them you will understand verses that say, "Shall we continue to sin because we're under grace? Certainly not!" "Shall we sin so that grace might abound? Certainly not!".

What you might want to know about 6:1, and 6;15. is that it was rhetorical, Paul was answering the very accusations, that are tossed about here, by some who do not understand grace.

19 I am speaking in human terms, because of your natural limitations. For just as you once presented your members as slaves to impurity and to lawlessness leading to more lawlessness, so now present your members as slaves to righteousness leading to sanctification.

chris4243 · Mar 28, 2011

Just one commandment for me; "Love your neighbor as yourself". The 10 Commandments are just redundant and of no additional value.

Frogster · Mar 28, 2011

yep..nothing has changed, same ole, same ole, from some that don't get it.

Rom 3:5-8 But if our unrighteousness serves to show the righteousness of God, what shall we say? That God is unrighteous to inflict wrath on us? (I speak in a human way.) 6 By no means! For then how could God judge the world? 7 But if through my lie God's truth abounds to his glory, why am I still being condemned as a sinner? 8 And why not do evil that good may come?as some people slanderously charge us with saying. Their condemnation is just.

Frogster · Mar 28, 2011

chris4243 said:
Just one commandment for me; "Love your neighbor as yourself". The 10 Commandments are just redundant and of no additional value.

yea, really those who push law, show it has not worked, their insides are a symptom, seen in the external dogmatism, of the law clutching.

If they were in the way of faith, law would be an insult, to the soul.

12 But the law is not of faith, rather The one who does them shall live by them.

bbbbbbb · Mar 28, 2011

Hentenza said:
There you go.

The Law: All 613 Commandments!

Thanks. It is a relief to see that someone took the time and effort that God failed to exert when He doled out the commandments willy-nilly in no apparent order.

sheina · Mar 28, 2011

Elder 111 said:
The Sabbath is not a feast. The passover is not of the 10 commandments.

According to Leviticus 23:1-4, the Sabbath is a feast:

Leviticus 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Leviticus 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

A "holy convocation" is religious festival during which no work was done.

How come you don't keep those "other" seven feasts listed in Leviticus 23?

The Ten Commandments are only a part of the OT Law...you can't just "pull out" the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath and ignore the "other" parts of the OT law. It is ONE law and it is indivisible.

sheina · Mar 28, 2011

chris4243 said:
Just one commandment for me; "Love your neighbor as yourself". The 10 Commandments are just redundant and of no additional value.

Don't forget "the first and great commandment":

Matthew 22:36 Master, which is the great commandment in the law?
Matthew 22:37 Jesus said unto him, Thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind.
Matthew 22:38 This is the first and great commandment.
Matthew 22:39 And the second is like unto it, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.
Matthew 22:40 On these two commandments hang all the law and the prophets.

Without the first and great commandment the second would be impossible to do.

1 John 4:20 If a man say, I love God, and hateth his brother, he is a liar: for he that loveth not his brother whom he hath seen, how can he love God whom he hath not seen?

1 John 4:21 And this commandment have we from him, That he who loveth God love his brother also.

chris4243 · Mar 28, 2011

sheina said:
Don't forget "the first and great commandment":

But the only thing I can do for God, is to love those He loves. There really isn't much else I could do to demonstrate my love for God.

sheina · Mar 28, 2011

chris4243 said:
But the only thing I can do for God, is to love those He loves. There really isn't much else I could do to demonstrate my love for God.

All I am saying is this: If one does not love God first and foremost, how can that person love his neighbor? It's not possible.

ARBITER01 · Mar 29, 2011

sheina said:
All I am saying is this: If one does not love God first and foremost, how can that person love his neighbor? It's not possible.

Exactly.

It is the love of GOD flowing through us that enables us to love where we cannot in our own strength.

sheina · Mar 29, 2011

ARBITER01 said:
Exactly.

It is the love of GOD flowing through us that enables us to love where we cannot in our own strength.

My point exactly!

Elder 111 · Mar 29, 2011

sheina said:
According to Leviticus 23:1-4, the Sabbath is a feast:

Leviticus 23:1 And the LORD spake unto Moses, saying,

Leviticus 23:2 Speak unto the children of Israel, and say unto them, Concerning the feasts of the LORD, which ye shall proclaim to be holy convocations, even these are my feasts.

Leviticus 23:3 Six days shall work be done: but the seventh day is the sabbath of rest, an holy convocation; ye shall do no work therein: it is the sabbath of the LORD in all your dwellings.

Leviticus 23:4 These are the feasts of the LORD, even holy convocations, which ye shall proclaim in their seasons.

A "holy convocation" is religious festival during which no work was done.

How come you don't keep those "other" seven feasts listed in Leviticus 23?

The Ten Commandments are only a part of the OT Law...you can't just "pull out" the Ten Commandments and the Sabbath and ignore the "other" parts of the OT law. It is ONE law and it is indivisible.

How is it the ten and the sabbath? A mistake there?
Is it that marrying your brother or mother out too?
Do you glorify God by accepting and proclaiming that His holy law is abolished?
Do you approach a prostitute and tell her that God law is no more but she should not do that anymore be cause it is evil?
What do you tell the church member who is praising God , proclaim that they are serving God and stealing? That grace and faith is all they need?
Tell you what, you call them hypocrites.
You would tell me you do not steal but you have done worst for you proclaim that the law that state that stealing is a sin is abolished.
Does the fact that Paul states that law holy just and good mean nothing to you. Does the fact that God wrote it twice Himself mean nothing.
Do you not see in Liv. 23 that God spoke, paused and mentioned the sabbath and then returns to the feast days. The ten commandments is a feast too?

Elder 111 · Mar 29, 2011

chris4243 said:
But the only thing I can do for God, is to love those He loves. There really isn't much else I could do to demonstrate my love for God.

Did He not say Himself, If you love me keep my commandments.

Elder 111 · Mar 29, 2011

For every passage that is used to say God's law is abolished. they are 7 that states clearly it is not. Keep by commandments. By they fruits you will know them. Is this not the Spirituals fruits of obedience to the 10 commandments? If not, what are they?
Do you accept a thief as a child of God or someone that do not steal. Commandments keeper or breaker. You see we say one thing with our lips but expect another in practice.
Imagine boldly standing before God and stating Lord I believed. and the devils say we too. No No No. Thou believest that there is one God; thou doest well: the devils also believe, and tremble.Those who do makes a difference.

k4c · Mar 29, 2011

sheina said:
My point exactly!

How do you feel about Christians who say they have the love of God yet they have sexual relationships with people outside of marriage because they say they love them too? Is there not a standard for godly love?

What about those who fly planes into buildindings killing thousands of people because they say they love God? Is there not a standard set by God to define godly love?

What about pastors and churches that approve of same sex marriages and perform weddings for them? As God not set the standard?

What about all this fighting and arguing about which day to worship on? Has God not set the standard for which day to call holy for the gathering of His people?

Remember, God says those who obey the Law will be justified in the end.

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10 commandments for christians or not?

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Chriatians should keep the 10 commandments

10 commandments except Sabbath

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