Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

[Elder 111]

It is made clear that we as Christians are under grace and are save by grace by faith.
Does that mean that we do not keep the 10 commandments?
A Jehovah's witness made it a point of telling me that the commandments are abolished. My next question was, can I have sex with you?
Answer, No!
Why Not?
We have to keep the spirit of the law.
What! The law died and the spirit lives?
Is that what we believe?
Does that make sense?
If we acknowledge that we can not lie or steal or commit adultery, do we not acknowledge that the law is still for us?

 

[wpage]

Christ simplified the 10 to the Golden rules...

Love God
Love your neighbor as yourself.

On these 2 hinge all the law.

 

[Elder 111]

Christ simplified the 10 to the Golden rules...

Love God
Love your neighbor as yourself.

On these 2 hinge all the law.

What does that mean?
That I can love God and my neighbor but I can steal, covet and sneak through the window and sleep with His wife?

 

[Ortho_Cat]

which ten commandments? There are two sets of them, IIRC...

 

[Brother Jason]

Philippians 3:14 I press toward the mark for the prize of the high calling of God in Christ Jesus.

The 10 commandments are God's revealed will for His people. Everything else is just commentary.

 

[razeontherock]

What does that mean?
That I can love God and my neighbor but I can steal, covet and sneak through the window and sleep with His wife?

How can you possibly get that out of the golden rule?

 

[Frogster]

How can we keep spmething that was not permanent, was death and condemnation? Green = permanent, and it was not the 10.


7 Now if the ministry of death, carved in letters on stone, came with such glory that the Israelites could not gaze at Moses' face because of its glory, which was being brought to an end, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit have even more glory? 9 For if there was glory in the ministry of condemnation, the ministry of righteousness must far exceed it in glory. 10 Indeed, in this case, what once had glory has come to have no glory at all, because of the glory that surpasses it. 11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

 

[Scottish Knight]

Oops,accidentally clicked on the wrong choice :o, I should have ticked the second box.

 

[Frogster]

What does that mean?
That I can love God and my neighbor but I can steal, covet and sneak through the window and sleep with His wife?

The question is, do the 10 stop it in the heart. Do you have 1 verse to prove they do? Scripture says the law aroused sin. 7:5, 7:8 of Rom says sin is dead, apart from the 10. Please advise.

 

[Elder 111]

How can you possibly get that out of the golden rule?

How can the Golden rule nullify the 10 commandments?
That is what most people state, and clearly that is not true. The golden rule is a summary of the 10.

 

[Frogster]

How can the Golden rule nullify the 10 commandments?
That is what most people state, and clearly that is not true. The golden rule is a summary of the 10.

were they permanent? No..according to the very word of God.

11 For if what was being brought to an end came with glory, much more will what is permanent have glory.

 

[Frogster]

It is made clear that we as Christians are under grace and are save by grace by faith.
Does that mean that we do not keep the 10 commandments?
A Jehovah's witness made it a point of telling me that the commandments are abolished. My next question was, can I have sex with you?
Answer, No!
Why Not?
We have to keep the spirit of the law.
What! The law died and the spirit lives?
Is that what we believe?
Does that make sense?
If we acknowledge that we can not lie or steal or commit adultery, do we not acknowledge that the law is still for us?

why does the Bible clearly say, the father of our faith, Abe, was justified by faith, wayyyy before law?

And he is our example. Why?


7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham.

Why is the blessing of Abe, juxtaposed to the curse of the law? Why?

9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.


10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse;[/U] for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”

 

[Elder 111]

The question is, do the 10 stop it in the heart. Do you have 1 verse to prove they do? Scripture says the law aroused sin. 7:5, 7:8 of Rom says sin is dead, apart from the 10. Please advise.

Only Jesus give power to over come sin. Rom. 7:24-25.
The 10 was never covering sin. But how would I know sin without the 10?
Acknowledging the law is not to gain salvation, not at all. How can I proclaim to be saved and not keep the law?

 

[k4c]

I believe when a person comes alive to God it will be hard for him not to keep the Ten Commandments because when kept they will manifest godly love.

There is a false movment that says God's Law is done away with. Without God's Law to set the standard for what godly love and righteous looks like these things will be open to private interpretation and we can see what that looks like in the religous world today.

The only way to understand how God's Law applies today we have to understand how the two covenants worked.

The old covenant influenced the outward actions of man through fear whereas the Law in the new covenant influences the heart of man which in turn influences the outward actions of man through love.

Loving God and loving man is the spirit or purpose of the Law.

When we're born of God it will be hard not to keep the Ten Commandments, including remembnering to keep the Sabbath holy. But since the spirit or purpose of the Law is love we are not to put Sabbath observance over and above human needs.

 

[Frogster]

Only Jesus give power to over come sin. Rom. 7:24-25.
The 10 was never covering sin. But how would I know sin without the 10?
Acknowledging the law is not to gain salvation, not at all. How can I proclaim to be saved and not keep the law?

BUT..why does the bible clearly say, the law aroused sin, and it was added for that reason?

5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death.

20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,

Why?

 

[Elder 111]

BUT..why does the bible clearly say, the law aroused sin, and it was added for that reason?

5 For while we were living in the flesh, our sinful passions, aroused by the law, were at work in our members to bear fruit for death.

20 Now the law came in to increase the trespass, but where sin increased, grace abounded all the more,

Why?

Don't understand.
Why don't you vote?

 

[Dylan Michael]

which ten commandments? There are two sets of them, IIRC...

There are three.
Jewish, Catholic/Lutheran, Protestant.

 

[Elder 111]

which ten commandments? There are two sets of them, IIRC...

Ex. 20:3-17

 

[k4c]

why does the Bible clearly say, the father of our faith, Abe, was justified by faith, wayyyy before law?

And he is our example. Why?


7 Know then that it is those of faith who are the sons of Abraham.

Why is the blessing of Abe, juxtaposed to the curse of the law? Why?

9 So then, those who are of faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

10 For all who rely on works of the law are under a curse;[/U] for it is written, “Cursed be everyone who does not abide by all things written in the Book of the Law, and do them.”

Abraham is our example in that he first believed God, which caused him to leave his home and travel to a land he did not know.

Our faith is the same way. We must first believe God before we keep His commandments. Why do I say this? Because the whole world is living one way while God's people are to live another way as defind by God's Law but if we live by God's standard we will be different from the world and may even be persecuted or outcast for it. But if we believe God first in all that He says about the blessings that follow obedience and the coming kingdom of God we too will be counted as righteous but this will not cause us to do away with God's Law, but rather, our faith will motivate us to keep it.

Romans 3:31 Do we then overthrow the law by this faith? By no means! On the contrary, we uphold the law.

 

[Deut 5:29]

Do you agree that christians should keep the 10 Commandments?

Of course.
They were all taught by word, and or, example throughout the NT.
God changes not.