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Sure seems to say there is no salvation by grace as mentioned in Eph 2:8-10.
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Sure seems to say there is no salvation by grace as mentioned in Eph 2:8-10.Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the childrens children to the third and the fourth generation. Exodus 34:7
How can a sinner not under condemnation of the law, and how can the grace of God save him? Don't day dreaming but hold the Scripture alone.
Scripture is clear that Moses communicated only that which God showed him. Do you think otherwise based on something else?It appears that Moses communicated to the craftsmen much than us.
It was nice. Lot's of food.Thanks for the good will. Hope yours was great as well.
Sure seems to say there is no salvation by grace as mentioned in Eph 2:8-10.
U's rat bout what?yeah, and I'm right.
Momma always was sayin take yer own advice.Keep studying, whether you will come to this truth or not is all because of the grace of God.
That isn't what was said. Sorry.All are saved by grace. The "guilty" who are not cleared are those who do not come to God for salvation.
Yes I do believe that I answered your question. No I don't find that significant.Scratch:
I was away during the holiday so I wanted to ask if you ever answered my question about the law and the ark as shown in revelation. Did you find that to be significant at all in regards to the existence of the law?
Originally Posted by Arthur57
You can't have both of them.
But both seem to be living and thus the war Paul noted in Rom 7:24-25. If one can have only one there will be no war. The enemy fought Jesus all through His earthly ministry but didn't tempt Him that I know of except the incidents immediately following the 40 day fast. The enemy of my soul doesn't bother me with temptation on certian things. But the little foxes are the one that spoil the vine so I hear. And it is those little foxes that give me fits. Those cute kits grow into adults if they aren't snuffed.
Galatians 5 thewhole chapter.
The physical body isn't subject to the law as Paul states in Rom 8:7.
The body has received its unreversable sentence and is final. The physical body isn't redeemed, the soul is. Other wise man has control of the eternal destiny of a man by ending a human's life. Very contradictive showing misunderstanding of the concept of salvation. Please go over very carefully what you said.
Sure seems to say there is no salvation by grace as mentioned in Eph 2:8-10.
I don't have a doctorate in food and physiology like you probably do, but I do know that millions or billions of people, throughout history and now, eat pork with no apparent ill effect. Unsafe? I don't think so.
It's the other white meat, you know!
Edit to add, if they eat their own young, why don't they become extinct?
What was said then?That isn't what was said. Sorry.
Sorry you don't find that significant. Where did you answer that question?Yes I do believe that I answered your question. No I don't find that significant.
You gave commands of the law about love. You didn't provide anything that shows the law is love. Asking if the Scripture calls the law evil doesn't provide the asked for proof. It does change the subject.Love the Lord thy God
Love thy neighbor as thyself
I think you misunderstand me when I say the law is love. You may not follow me on this but that's to be expected.
Scripture says all good things come from above (God). Scripture also tells us that God is love. So since God is love, and all good things come from above, I thus believe that the law, given by God, was given out of love, thus the law equaling love.
Does scripture call the law evil or something along those lines?
You gave commands of the law about love. You didn't provide anything that shows the law is love. Asking if the Scripture calls the law evil doesn't provide the asked for proof. It does change the subject.
Nope, but God did change the program as promised in Jer 31:31-34 and evidenced by Jesus and testified that it did happen by Him as well.hen you also must believe that God is different than He was before?
Nope, but God did change the program as promised in Jer 31:31-34 and evidenced by Jesus and testified that it did happen by Him as well.
You mean to tell me it was not God's purpose to have the law written in the heart to begin with?Nope, but God did change the program as promised in Jer 31:31-34 and evidenced by Jesus and testified that it did happen by Him as well.
Then did sin exist before the law - Rom 5:13, Gal 3:19? How was sin defined or noted before the law? Joseph and Moses are good examples and yet the law came by Moses Jn 1:17 - For the law was given by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.Again a clear denial to the Scripture: Sin is transgression of the law (1 John 3:4) and the wages of sin is death (Romans 6:13)
When will you stop denying the Scripture and try to accept as it is?
1 What shall we say then? Shall we continue in sin that grace may abound?2 Certainly not! 15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? Certainly not! Romans 6:1, 15.
Is it impossible for believers to sin? No! That is why we have I Jn 1:9-2:1. It isn't a life style.Why for believers not to sin, even they are under grace?
While this is foundin the law it refers to sin which was in the world before the law and has been superceded that is come to an end of jurisdiction for a specific group of people known as Christians. Gal 3:19, I Tim 1:9-10. The Christian has passed from death (condemnation) to life - Jn 5:24. This means the Christian has passed the judgement. and isn't condemned - Romans 8:1-4.Keeping mercy for thousands, forgiving iniquity and transgression and sin, by no means clearing the guilty, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children and the childrens children to the third and the fourth generation. Exodus 34:7.
Now yank back hard on dem hosses ya hear. I don't promote such a crazy idea. But to say if a Christian sins in and by the flesh, they aren't following the leading of the Spirit and have an advocate with the Father, Who goes by the names of Jesus. There is a difference in a sin opposed to a life style of sin. I certian don't authorize, promote or condone either.How could you come to the conclusion if under grace, sin is not condemned?
Apparently. I guess that is why God said He would now do that very thing.You mean to tell me it was not God's purpose to have the law written in the heart to begin with?
The doing away with the law.What was "evidenced by Jesus"?
The doing away with the law.
Indeed you said the law is love. I asked where the Bible says the law is love. You gave commands of the law and not proof that the law is love.What
I said that the law is love. Then I provided an answer for why I believe the law is love. I never said scripture says law is love. What I know about love however matches up square with the law of God. If the law is not love then what is it?
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