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gluadys said:In sinful actions. And the will to put one's own interests first that lies behind them.
pastorkevin73 said:One of us isn't understanding each other. I was asking were the first sin that percipitate all other sins? If you did understand the question, then I don't understand your responce...Please explain.
Another Question: If Genesis is not literal then where does satan come to play in the whole origin of sin?
gluadys said:Who says the first sin precipitated other sins? All the first sin did was bring sin into the world. Scripture is clear that each bears the penalty for their own sin, not that of the first sinner.
Satan is the tempter. Because God gave us free will, God created the situation in which we could be tempted. I don't see how Genesis not being literal prevents us being tempted and falling into sin.
In fact, it is a very good pre-scientific (i.e. mythological) explanation of how we all fall into sin in every generation. In ancient times mythology often played the role of science today in that the stories were explanations about what we observe and experience.
pastorkevin73 said:True, we all have free choice. However, the first sin did precipitated all other sins, because it was the fall of mankind. So again the question is, if Genesis is myth then where and when did the first sin occur?
Another question comes to mind. If Genesis is myth, then how do you account for the existance of the Hebrew people and did their forefathers exist?
This is best answered not with a factual answer, but with a story (as Jesus answered so many of the questions asked of him with stories). Genesis chapter 3 is that story; it answers the question far better than any factual response can.pastorkevin73 said:So again the question is, if Genesis is myth then where and when did the first sin occur?
ebia said:This is best answered not with a factual answer, but with a story (as Jesus answered so many of the questions asked of him with stories). Genesis chapter 3 is that story; it answers the question far better than any factual response can.
gluadys said:What does it matter? Sin is a fact of human nature no matter where or when the first sin occurred. I think the Genesis story is more about the psychology of temptation and sin that about where and when.
Yes. Some of it is factual.ThaiDuykhang said:Do you think the whole Bible is a story?
How do you know? The bible never says this - it's just an assumption, and not a well founded one.Where Jesus told stories, Bible or Jesus explicitly said it's a parable.
It mostly creates misunderstading when people insist on reading it as though it were a 20th century factual account instead of an ancient mythical/allegorical one.ThaiDuykhang said:Original sin defers other sins in that it's passed down from generation to generation. If evolution is true, then human starts as a sinful being instead of in a "clean"(I forget the proper word) state as described in the Bible, and you'd better explain what Bible is phrased that way to create misunderstanding.
laterunner said:Isn't science now vertually based on theory like communisum & other 'isums
gluadys said:What does it matter? Sin is a fact of human nature no matter where or when the first sin occurred. I think the Genesis story is more about the psychology of temptation and sin that about where and when.
Of course their forefathers existed. Have you never heard of mythical genealogies?
It's a theological statement on the nature of sin and death, not a historical one on the chronology of sin and death.S Walch said:How do evolutions explain that when Paul says that sin and death only came into being after adam sinned, how many populations of species could've "died" if, we go by Pauls words, that death and sin only came in through adam?
ebia said:It's a theological statement on the nature of sin and death, not a historical one on the chronology of sin and death.
ThaiDuykhang said:Original sin defers other sins in that it's passed down from generation to generation. If evolution is true, then human starts as a sinful being instead of in a "clean"(I forget the proper word) state as described in the Bible, and you'd better explain what Bible is phrased that way to create misunderstanding.
ThaiDuykhang said:Then how do you know which passage is mythical and which passage is literal? How about some modernists' claim "Jesus we worship now isn't the Jesus in history"?
"God isn't the author of confusion" means you don't need much non-theological research to get theology right. God knows Israelis and apostles didn't have much knowledge about science. so He had to ensure they understood the Bible correctly
laterunner said:Isn't science now vertually based on theory like communisum & other 'isums
therefore religions.
Where as Christianity is about the following of a living God
through Jesus.
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