As far as I understand it, our souls are the only part of us which actually go to heaven after we die. We like to think we still have our own basic personalities in heaven, right? So does that mean that the soul is the part of us which carries our thoughts and personality? Does it determine our personalities?
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Do souls determine our personality?
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"We" will still be "us" in heaven. As for whether or not our soul determines personality, our personalities change over time. Take any psych courses and that much becomes clear. Especially if you're 23/24, your personality still has stuff that will happen to it. Whether that be minor changes or major changes, it's still being molded.
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Jesus has promised a resurrection of the body as well. But that is a theological topic I suppose. In answer to your question, our souls do affect personality, but both are affected by the things that we do and the situations we find ourselves in. It was, after all, all of you that was saved by the mercy of God, spirit soul and body.
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What happens to a person's soul who suffers brain damage? A person's personality can dramatically change after brain injuries, but does it affect their soul? Will they act brain damaged in heaven?
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"What happens to a person's soul who suffers brain damage? A person's personality can dramatically change after brain injuries, but does it affect their soul? Will they act brain damaged in heaven?"
When I was 7 years old I had a stroke, I should be dead, mentally retarded, or at very least physically disabled. But I was incredibly fortunate, I survived with little damgage, my sight was only damaged a little, yet I can still drive and play football better than you. I did well at school, and am starting at a prestige university next monday. I am 19 years old.
I never talk about this, but since this is an anonymous site, why not.
To anwser question, I don't know for certain, but I believe my personality changed the day I arrived at hospital in intensive care. As it is a lot of trauma to go through for any 7 year old. Yet here I am, I believe Jesus died for me, my parents being athiest, and I was brought up as an athiest. Here I am believing in God.
So my anwser to your question is that God works in all kinds of people.
If you could see me now you would never have thought I had been through, what I have been through.
and no they will not act 'brain damaged', as you put it, in heaven.
A more difficult question to ask would be, what happens to those who have are mentally retarded from birth, how are they judged on judgement day. Unable to even speak, or comprehend english, through out their life, always with a carer. They cannot understand the concept of 'God', and their IQ falls at 40 or below. Are they saved by Christ? When they cannot even understand the concept of salvation?
Thats what I will ask God when I get there. If i get there.
When I was 7 years old I had a stroke, I should be dead, mentally retarded, or at very least physically disabled. But I was incredibly fortunate, I survived with little damgage, my sight was only damaged a little, yet I can still drive and play football better than you. I did well at school, and am starting at a prestige university next monday. I am 19 years old.
I never talk about this, but since this is an anonymous site, why not.
To anwser question, I don't know for certain, but I believe my personality changed the day I arrived at hospital in intensive care. As it is a lot of trauma to go through for any 7 year old. Yet here I am, I believe Jesus died for me, my parents being athiest, and I was brought up as an athiest. Here I am believing in God.
So my anwser to your question is that God works in all kinds of people.
If you could see me now you would never have thought I had been through, what I have been through.
and no they will not act 'brain damaged', as you put it, in heaven.
A more difficult question to ask would be, what happens to those who have are mentally retarded from birth, how are they judged on judgement day. Unable to even speak, or comprehend english, through out their life, always with a carer. They cannot understand the concept of 'God', and their IQ falls at 40 or below. Are they saved by Christ? When they cannot even understand the concept of salvation?
Thats what I will ask God when I get there. If i get there.
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I don't think any of us can define what our souls are. Our personalities are based in our brains, the concious is based in more on life experience,
An abused child raised in utter poverty without love will most likely grow up angry, unloving, low self esteem and probably abuse others when an adult.
But that same child raised in love, needs met, educated would grow and have a different outlook.
Certainly they may be genetically inclined to act as a type A of B person, but a type A person based on life experience can be a cruel and hateful person or a loving giving person.
A Meloncholy type person, usually genetically quite, often feels deep sadness raised by loving parents often are those working behind the scenes doing great acts of love for others. That same meloncholy person raised in abuse and hate can often become a dark evil minded serial killer. I think life experiences make us who we are, our personalities are just how we display who we are.
An abused child raised in utter poverty without love will most likely grow up angry, unloving, low self esteem and probably abuse others when an adult.
But that same child raised in love, needs met, educated would grow and have a different outlook.
Certainly they may be genetically inclined to act as a type A of B person, but a type A person based on life experience can be a cruel and hateful person or a loving giving person.
A Meloncholy type person, usually genetically quite, often feels deep sadness raised by loving parents often are those working behind the scenes doing great acts of love for others. That same meloncholy person raised in abuse and hate can often become a dark evil minded serial killer. I think life experiences make us who we are, our personalities are just how we display who we are.
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Dear Ike 87. Our soul is the personality which brings our human bodies to Life. Without our soul, our body is lifeless, it needs the soul to regenerate us. I say this with love. Greetings from Emmy, sister in Christ.
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Ecclesiastes 7 gives us an image of what happens to us when we die "the dust returns to the ground it came from, and the spirit returns to God who gave it." That word "spirit" is the hebrew word "ruwach" which can be trasnlated as wind, breath and as well spirit There seems to be this deep connection between our spirit and God who breathed it into being. Almost like an exhale of breath that gives life which inevitably prompts the corresponding inhale that takes life as the breath returns to God. This is the image of our corruptible bodies which will release our spirit to God and return back to earth.
However when Christ raptures his church we will be given incorruptible bodies. What these bodies will look like is not exactly clear however just using the words incorruptible invokes all these concepts and ideas that we can compare with in our current weakness of our corruptible bodies. Revelations gives us an image of no death, sickness or tears with these bodies. I would suggest also that there will be no such thing as damaged goods and these bodies will be physically flawless, an image of everything we could have been but that our old bodies were not capable of before. So no physical deformities or brain damage. Here our spirits will be in union with our physical but unlike now our physical will not hold us back.
Paul describes those who are dead as "asleep" in Christ. Jesus states on the cross to the thief "today you will be with me in paradise" This idea of an after life is a little blurry although it seems we will be at least with Christ in heaven but there seems to be some sort of waiting or delay until Christ's raptures the church and we are rejoined with our bodies. Certinaly whatever the state it seems we are incomplete, as we are now, until as 1 Corinthians 13 says "when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away". Or when Christ returns our incompleteness will be transformed into perfection and what we lack now we will not lack then. Even though dying and going to heaven seems to be what we are striving for our heavenly state between now and the rapture is still incomplete and still partial because "the perfect" has not come yet.
I suggest our true and pure personalities will come out of us when our spirit is fused with out incorruptible bodies. It seems the two right now are deeply connected but lacking because we are lacking; not our spirit but our physical. We are not meant to be ambivalent spirits floating around without a host body as this picture of heaven sometimes suggests. With our new bodies we will not be lacking so our personalities also will not be lacking. Heaven is not our final destination but instead the New Heaven and New Earth.
However when Christ raptures his church we will be given incorruptible bodies. What these bodies will look like is not exactly clear however just using the words incorruptible invokes all these concepts and ideas that we can compare with in our current weakness of our corruptible bodies. Revelations gives us an image of no death, sickness or tears with these bodies. I would suggest also that there will be no such thing as damaged goods and these bodies will be physically flawless, an image of everything we could have been but that our old bodies were not capable of before. So no physical deformities or brain damage. Here our spirits will be in union with our physical but unlike now our physical will not hold us back.
Paul describes those who are dead as "asleep" in Christ. Jesus states on the cross to the thief "today you will be with me in paradise" This idea of an after life is a little blurry although it seems we will be at least with Christ in heaven but there seems to be some sort of waiting or delay until Christ's raptures the church and we are rejoined with our bodies. Certinaly whatever the state it seems we are incomplete, as we are now, until as 1 Corinthians 13 says "when the perfect comes, the partial will be done away". Or when Christ returns our incompleteness will be transformed into perfection and what we lack now we will not lack then. Even though dying and going to heaven seems to be what we are striving for our heavenly state between now and the rapture is still incomplete and still partial because "the perfect" has not come yet.
I suggest our true and pure personalities will come out of us when our spirit is fused with out incorruptible bodies. It seems the two right now are deeply connected but lacking because we are lacking; not our spirit but our physical. We are not meant to be ambivalent spirits floating around without a host body as this picture of heaven sometimes suggests. With our new bodies we will not be lacking so our personalities also will not be lacking. Heaven is not our final destination but instead the New Heaven and New Earth.
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Being that the majority of our personalities are results of brain development and function, it's hard to tell. Microscopic abnormalities in anything from brain tissue, chemical imbalances, to regions of blood flow can make "night and day" changes almost effortlessly to our personalities. Sometimes it has the "puppet on a string" feel, but that's probably just the way I perceive it.
I couldn't really answer, but hopefully I made some sort of contribution.
I couldn't really answer, but hopefully I made some sort of contribution.
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Dear Ike 78. I did not explain it fully in my reply to you. When we are born we have a soul, our inner man. The soul grows as the body grows. While we are young, and without much thought, our souls will follow all our body`s wishes. As we grow older and start thinkink seriously, our conscience, or God`s still small inner voice, will make itself heard. Our soul will follow and listen too, and take over from the bodily wishes, i.e. loves to hear about Jesus, wants to be more like Jesus, and enjoys becoming a follower of Jesus. It may be a slow process, or happen quickly. When our time comes for our bodies to leave this Earth, our souls will either be light and heavenly, or heavy and earthly. But our souls are going back to where they came from, our original home with God. The small part of God, our still small inner voice of God, will return to God. Perhaps the best answer to your question, Ike, our souls are inner man, and our final personality will be the inner man, our soul. I say this with love. Greetings from Emmy, your sister in Christ.
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