i believe so. The PCUSA doctrine of Scripture is described briefly in the Confession of 1967, which is also accepted by the ECO. Though I think we disagree on what the Bible really means.
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i believe so. The PCUSA doctrine of Scripture is described briefly in the Confession of 1967, which is also accepted by the ECO. Though I think we disagree on what the Bible really means.So that means the PCA believes in inerrant
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ECO believes in infallible.
So the PCA don't change anything in the bible while the ECO can change what the bible really meant. So that would mean the PCusa is doing the same thing as ECO.
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i believe so. The PCUSA doctrine of Scripture is described briefly in the Confession of 1967, which is also accepted by the ECO. Though I think we disagree on what the Bible really means.
The PCA is fully committed to traditional Reformed Christianity. The ECO is not. I think they'll end up remerging with the PCUSA when people calm down about gays. You can never guarantee that something won't change, but the PCA is doing what they can to make sure that they don't.
"God-breathed" is misleading. It's peculiar to the NIV. The term can reflect differing theories of what inspiration means. The passage as a whole is actually fairly weak. It says simply that the Bible is useful for specific purposes.
Careful PCUSA folk would probably say that they don't believe in the Bible, they believe in God. They consider the Bible to be an authoritative witness to God, but still a human witness.
Presbyterian Church in the United States of America. They are the largest Presbyterian denomination and pride themselves in being progressive. They are very welcoming to all sinners of various backgrounds, race, ethnicity, sexual preference. They also are a bit more liberal in their views, often stating that parts of the Bible, such as the OT and books written by Paul, are not true because they didn't come from Jesus. They allow women and gays to lead the church.
No, we don't reject the books written by Paul. However we do use them differently. Mainline Presbyterians look at Paul’s letters as letters addressed to specific churches, and think that at times what he said was tailored to the situations of those churches or to first century Christians in general.
Everyone has to adapt the New Testament to some extent. Paul accepted slavery. We don’t. Both conservatives and mainline agree on this. But on some topics, primarily involving sex and gender roles, we disagree on whether Paul’s comments were tailored to the needs of 1st Cent Christians or reflect permanent, God-given rules.
I read the PCA believe differently in thier statements reguarding to "All Scripture is given by inspiration of God." Did the PCUSA say they believe only parts of the bible or did I misuderstand that?
Maybe they interpret things wrong and not know itMost people in the PCUSA do believe in some sort of Devine inspiration of the Bible, but the real question is do they treat it as authoritative.
Maybe they interpret things wrong and not know it
I escaped from a place that does gay marriage and deny the errency of the bible.You're in the PCUSA, no?
I escaped from a place that does gay marriage and deny the errency of the bible.
Ate there other reasons why i should leave pcusa. Should i join pca.
You can find a way. Pm me. I wont complain.My answer might violate CF rules.
Should you join the PCA? Absolutely!
I know you have some decent knowledge on beliefs and creeds and whatnot, but could you please not predict the future of the PCA? Stop predicting we'll all "come around" to the gay movement. No one knows what God has in store for humanity, nor would He allow the faithful to fall so far of Christ. Cultural influences are secondary to Scripture. We should not look at God's Word via life, we should look at life via Scripture.The PCA is fully committed to traditional Reformed Christianity. The ECO is not. I think they'll end up remerging with the PCUSA when people calm down about gays. You can never guarantee that something won't change, but the PCA is doing what they can to make sure that they don't.
"God-breathed" is misleading. It's peculiar to the NIV. The term can reflect differing theories of what inspiration means. The passage as a whole is actually fairly weak. It says simply that the Bible is useful for specific purposes.
Careful PCUSA folk would probably say that they don't believe in the Bible, they believe in God. They consider the Bible to be an authoritative witness to God, but still a human witness.
Oh, my apologies.Huh? I said that PCA was taking precautions to avoid changes that would lead to accepting gays. It's the ECO that I think will likely do so.
They bend the scriptures to fit today's science, social environment. They used to fit the Gospel not to allow gay marriage and now they redesigned thier theologies to fit the good news to gay marriage. Lgbabc have lots of money and pcusa will do anything like change the word for thier support. I think eco is the proper way but I'm leaning more towards neither Calvinism nor Arminianism cause both are right as well as wrong.If they do, apparently they believe in a God who contradicts himself and can't communicate clearly.
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