Extraneous
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They dont mean anything me, you're right. Im only trying to use mans logic here. Man uses his own logic, God uses His. In God there is only one logic, that is Christ.
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If you really thought raw numbers meant anything, you'd be a Catholic or Muslim, or maybe Hindu.
This goes back to a question I asked you a while ago, and which you did your outmost best to avoid answering...
How do you differentiate true claims from false claims, if not through some form of testability?
Yes.
The idea behind falsification is not that something must be proved false but that there must be a way to determine if it is true or false. If you cannot determine if something is true or false you have no idea if it is true. Does that make sense to you?
Logically that would not be possible. You just made the point, that the cause
exists outside of our reality, not a natural event, so says you and science.
If one wants to know the truth about reality, they should not employ the scientific method because the scientific method relies on falsification. If you want to understand the truth about reality, just think logically and don't use the scientific method.
Can you show the above statement to be false?
The Gospel is what tamed both the barbarian and the Roman both, and although neither followed the Word with all their heart, all the time, its still that Word that enlightened the ancient world, whether you will admit it or not. Before the Gospel man was savage, and even the so called enlightened Roman empire with all its glorious philosophy and art, was nothing but a barbarian. It was the teaching of Love and mercy that Christ brought into the world that all modern civilization is built on. Its also the filthy remnant left over by the barbaric yet so called "civilized" Romans that is causing war, hate, greed and pride today.
If mankind followed Christ with all its heart, instead of clinging to mans wisdom and mans glory, then we would have no war or poverty. Mankind however glories instead in his own wisdom, and in the creation of his own hands. He worship idols made by his own hand, just as his forefathers did as well. He is reaping what he sows, just as God declared. Revelation speaks a great mystery concerning this, and mankind has reaped Gods plagues because he refuses to repent and Give God glory. Mankind doesn't even see it either because he is spiritualy blind, which is also part of the plague that he reaps
I don't need to show an alternative method for this to be true.
The test is whether or not the claim registers as logical to me. I am a being who has been designed with the ability to utilize logic to determine what is true, or in your case, I am a being who has evolved to have an ability to utilize logic to determine what is true(for no apparent reason other than to indulge in pleasing myself...)
If something can be shown to be illogical then I reject the claim. If the claim is logical, then I rationally accept it as possibly true.
Thus the logical statement that the truth about reality would be unfalsifiable because it would be impossible to prove the truth wrong, therefore, the scientific method should not be employed when one wants to figure out the truth about reality because the scientific method depends on falsification.
If you disagree that the above is logical, please explain why you disagree.
The test is whether or not the claim registers as logical to me.
I am a being who has been designed with the ability to utilize logic to determine what is true
, or in your case, I am a being who has evolved to have an ability to utilize logic to determine what is true(for no apparent reason other than to indulge in pleasing myself...)
If something can be shown to be illogical then I reject the claim.
Thus the logical statement that the truth about reality would be unfalsifiable because it would be impossible to prove the truth wrong
the scientific method should not be employed when one wants to figure out the truth about reality because the scientific method depends on falsification.
If you disagree that the above is logical, please explain why you disagree.
So you first want to know if a claim is false?
If one wants to know the truth about reality, they should not employ the scientific method because the scientific method relies on falsification.
If you want to understand the truth about reality, just think logically and don't use the scientific method.
The Gospel is what tamed both the barbarian and the Roman both, and although neither followed the Word with all their heart, all the time, its still that Word that enlightened the ancient world, whether you will admit it or not.
We will reap what we sow. If we sow to the spirit we will reap of the spirit, if we sow to the flesh we will reap only corruption. Its the truth, its the meaning of life itself. God commands that all men repent and believe in the Good News that he has given us.
There is only one truth. Its not found in mans wisdom, but in Gods wisdom. The answer i gave is the answer to any question.
Logically that would not be possible. You just made the point, that the cause
exists outside of our reality, not a natural event, so says you and science.
Ah, but there is only one serious claim, it's Genesis.
They dont mean anything me, you're right. Im only trying to use mans logic here. Man uses his own logic, God uses His. In God there is only one logic, that is Christ.
The test is whether or not the claim registers as logical to me.
I am a being who has been designed with the ability to utilize logic to determine what is true, or in your case, I am a being who has evolved to have an ability to utilize logic to determine what is true(for no apparent reason other than to indulge in pleasing myself...)
I didn't say falsification means something must be proven false, I said falsification means something can possibly be proven false.
Logically, the truth about reality would be impossible to prove false, therefore, one should not employ the scientific method to determine the truth about reality because the scientific method depends on falsification.
Yet more bare assertions.
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